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Originally Posted by argentinoboyy  i do judo, (i just started so i suck) and everyone is telling me that judo beats BJJ but when i look at videos on youtube or some place, they're pretty damn even, so which is stronger, BJJ OR JUDO? |
My personal view, they are basically the same thing. Bare in mind GJJ the father of BJJ is derived from Kodokan Judo, their are several styles of judo as their are of BJJ, so going with generalizations doesn't do it justice. I've listed the major styles of Judo derived from Kano's origional work and would like to point out the term judo was invented by Kano, there were styles which though jujutsu had chosen the name judo. Kano just redefined the term with his own Kodokan Judo...
Kodokan Judo- Teaches both stand-up grappling and groundfighting, as well as pressure points and basic striking technques similar to aikido. It is also more jujitsu (as it was also called Kano-Ryu Jujitsu) and closely linked to jujutsu techniques by Kano himself. Kodokan Judo also has a philosophical link to Taoist philosophy as well.
Police Judo- A forerunner of sport judo & GJJ, were the the focus was more heavily placed on groundfighting and submission then on philosophy or well rounded skill sets. It is also the first appearance of the "Guard" also called "Hara-jime" or "Dojime" meaning belly squeezing or trunk squeezing respectively.
Military Judo- A short lived field stripped addaptation of Kodokan Judo techniques, which was droped from the Japanese Military in favor of Katate because it was quicker to learn, and seen as more effective with limited training time available in basic training.
Sport or Olymic Judo- Modern sport judo was born Russian Sambo influence on classical sport judo and the degrading of true Kodokan Judo's combative influences by the U.S. Military at the end of World War Two. Olypmic or sprot judo focuses primarily on throwing which one get poitns for or ne-waza pinning techniques which one gains points for. Almost no attention is placed a striking, except in kata and only as part of tradition. Many sports judo schools do not even practice the striking techniques at all.
GJJ- Focuses more on ground fighting positioning then technique, as position allows one to dominate an opponent by reducing their leverage and increasing one's own. The focus on Groundfighting is heavily derived from police judo, were taking down and controlling a criminal was more desired then fighting it out with them. Little striking technques are included by do exist, unlike sport judo there is no focus on gaining points through throws & takedowns but by gaining a dominant position and submission. Like both police and kodokan judo the focus is less on competition and more on control of an opponent.
BJJ (generalization)- Commonly practiced as a sport with a focus on submissions and groundfighting.
Gracie Combatives- A very short almost crash crourse in GJJ that focuses on Ground fighting basics and positioning. No striking, throws or takedowns are included...