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Old 01-07-2008, 12:32 PM   #17 (permalink)
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It seems to me that people have set aside Ninjutsu as the "Ultimate Martial Art" in various forums it has recieved the highest votes and has had the general consensus as the best.
Ninjitsu has fallen out of that "ultimate martial art" stereo-type-myth because most people who practice ninjutsu have turned into whiny little kids who are more interesting in politics & money then in actually training. IMHO

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What sets Ninjutsu out from other martial arts for you? I haven't seen much, but it seems a little bit like, Aikido or Judo mixed with some fancy sword stuff.
Well for me I found two groups of "ninja" (yeah yeah)...

Group A: Are for lack of a better term idiots, who like has already been stated are trying to project themselves into history, TV or fantasies, often this group ranges from pre-teen nerds who desire to beat up the jocks to wonna be historians who want to use history and media to mislead you into giving you money.
Group A is why I quit the Bujinkan; too many people deliberately spreading lies & slinging mud to pass of the "legetimate ninjutsu myth." This of course isn't a reflection on the many good instructors within the organization.

Group 2: Are the people who focus on real world effectiveness, these people include the & apply the arts of assassination, stealth and ambush to hieghten self-defense skills. After all a mugger can't mug you if your not there. A good list of these people include the Isreali who was Hatsumi's first western student, Robert Bussey, Ronald Duncan and several other who no longer are alive such as Don Dreuger, Kawazashi ??? who was part of Japan's ninja commando unit during world war two and trained the Japan Espionage Service and Irgum.

To that effect the second group have set themselves apart as they practice and apply ninjutsu as a military art.

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If you could explain what sets this martial art from all the rest and maybe post a video of some sparring or training that'd be great.
Well to answer this, let me first explain why I studied ninjutsu. For personal reasons I was a troubled kid who is now a troubled adult martial arts was my refuge and I ate, slept and breathed MA. I always wanted to learn ninjutsu because of the movies and the history.
I found a Bujinkan dojo and listened to the propaganda and did the training and found things severally lacking. I did manage to find a person who had studied Koga Omoto Ryu Ninjutsu and its tradition is a philosophic expansion of adaptation and personal growth. "Tradition without a purpose is worthless."

The last ninja in Japan was not Hatsumi but Seiko Fujita he trained and ran a commando force in Burma and China for 4 years, with out support in WW2. Fujita was the Grandmaster of Koga Ryu Ninjutsu and Nan Ban Sato Ryu Kenpo. Before his death Fujita combined the methods of koga ryu ninjutsu which had little need for hand-to-hand skills and contained only basic jujutsu skills with the kenpo style he had mastered. He also added elements of Chinese Martial Arts & Okinawan Karate. Fujita trained with many of great master of Jujutsu & Bujutsu and the founders of Shotokan, Judo and Aikido. After the conversion of Fujita's new ninjutsu system he called it Koga-Ha Sato Ryu Ninjutsu.

Koga-Ha Sato Ryu Ninjutsu roughly translates to Koga Family Sato School of Ninjutsu which marks the converging of Koga Ryu Ninjutsu & Sato Ryu Kenpo. So to see a strictly "traditional" school of ninjutsu defeats the idea of adaptation and growth that has always characterized ninjutsu as an art.
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