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Originally Posted by complete  I watched the episode with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and have couple of thoughts.
One, very impressed with the type of training they do, pulling the car with their head to strengthen the neck muscle, hour long takedown against several opponents back to back, etc. Also very impressed with the techniques involved to subdue a bigger opponent. Even a girl was able to submit a much bigger and strong guy.
However, I also had "concerns" for its potential weaknesses if not addressed properly. Same way I think striker martial arts could have potential weaknesses if they don't address it. In this case, more of opposite. I noticed that during the Jiu Jitsu match, they were standing almost right next to each other, within a striking distance, but were only concerned about trying to take the opponent down. If this was a real fight, one could easily knock the head of an opponent who's only looking down for a takedown. Again, same could be said of striking art where they are all about kicks and punches and vulnerable to a takedown.
One other minor concern would be that much of the techniques were taught with the Gi on and utilizing the Gi. What would happen if they were to fight someone without Gi? They didn't show any training without one.
All in all, I really enjoy watching Fight Quest as I can see both the positive and potential negative of different styles. |
What you guys saw was the sport or competition style of Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu. The points system they used at the end was modified, however. In most BJJ tournaments, points are awarded like this:
Takedown (1 opponent puts another on the ground):
2 points Sweep (1 opponent puts another on his back from his guard):
2 points Guard Pass (1 opponent gets past his opponents legs and maintains control for 3 or more seconds):
3 points Mount(1 opponent sitting on his opponents stomach held for 3 or more seconds):
4 points Back Mount (1 opponent is on the others back with both legs in the front of his opponent):
4 points
If anyone ALMOST gets any of these positions or ALMOST gets a submission they get an "advantage" point for tie-breaker purposes.
If someone gets tapped the match is over regardless of point difference.
In a Sport BJJ tournament, no striking is allowed of any kind. Slamming an opponent who has you in his guard or in an attempt to get out of a submission will result in disqualification. Stalling may result in a loss of points.
Because the point system works the way it does, the person who scores a takedown starts the match ahead so there is a lot of jockeying for a takedown. Someone pulling guard eliminates this point potential and so many good jiujitsu players will pull guard quickly.
The gi vs no-gi difference has been addressed in another thread so I won't go into the details of the differences between them.
As for it's weaknesses dealing with strikes, you have to understand that we don't claim to have good striking! The mentality of a jiujitsu player is to always look for the takedown to establish a top position where it is easy to dominate with strikes, this is why in competition the mount and back mount get you the most points: They offer the best ratio of striking to defending strikes.