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Old 03-10-2008, 04:26 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan View Post
Not always the case, as it is the zealots of religions who overcome others easily sueded.
Hmm, it seems such people need to exercise some God given free will. Although when you say zealots, who do you mean?

I know two guys, both Christian, with contasting views about martial arts. The one who believe martial arts are a sin is my old R.E (religious education) teacher, although don't think because of this he is a very strict right wing sort of fellow, he isn't.
The other person is my Jitsu mate who (funnily enough) believe that the study of martial arts isn't a sin and neither is the jusified use of them.

Here is a little example (because I like telling stories ) about how they jutify each of there beliefs using the same part of the bible.

The passage goes something like this:
'...And Jesus did see that the people was gambling inside a church, and it did make him rather miffed, and he did shout: "oi, you lot, get lost and take your card shufflers with you", and the people in the temple laughed at Jesus, which made him even more cross. He opened up a can of holy wup-ass, and proceded to smite the gamblers about the face in a way not since the prophet C.Norris in 32 B.C...he also gave the tables a right trashing'

I pretty sure it went something like that, my memory is a bit hazy. By the way, don't mind my interpretation if you are of religious disposition, I mean no offense to Jesus who I'm sure is generally a lovely chap.

Anyway, the guy who is against martial arts says this:
"Any form of fighting is wrong, Jesus sinned when he let his anger get a hold of him, which is why sortly thereafter he was baptized, because he knew his mistake and wanted to be cleansed of it. The passage shows that God was sincere when he sent his son to earth as a mortal man rather than a deity, and thus as a mortal man, was imperfect and could make mistakes. This clearly shows fighting in wrong"

The guy for martial arts says:
"Jesus, acting upon the will of God, was justified in his attack on the men at the temple. Jesus was a perfect person who could not sin, he was only baptized after because he was such a great person he thought it only good and proper, not because he had to. The passage shows the Jesus, leading a perfect example, took jutified violent action against sinners. This clearly shows that fighting is right if it is justified"

I won't go into the argument 'what is justified fighting and what isn't.' I also won't go into the millions of counter arguments that exist for both sides of the story. I just thought the example was food for thought.
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