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Originally Posted by john55  I have been to several TKD do schools and I think they were both decent, not as much of the mcdojo types as others but they did have kids with black belts. I think TKD has its uses and is a good art to study and practice, plus it is fun, a good workout, and great for families. Teaches respect, etc.
As far as self defense, there isnt any realistic training involved from what I have seen. In sparring, there were no kicks below the waist, no takedowns, not really any grabs, no taking the fight to the ground, no clinch, no knees, no elbows, no headbutts, and no grappling. Now other TKD schools may do this stuff when they spar, but my question is, is that really TKD? From what I have seen, TKD does not include that stuff, so those schools are borrowing from other arts, which I think is great but its not really TKD and some think it is.
The other problem I have is the false sense of security instructors give their students. While confidence is great, thinking you can defend yourself when you cannot could get you very hurt. TKD is great for keeping the fight at a distance. But, without realistic training, you revert to your natural instincts and all training goes out the window. That is why you need to spar realistically to get those movements into your natural fighting ability. One punch/kick to a certain area is not going to stop an attacker in most cases but more or less make them mad. But as TKD practioners we dont even know that because no one has ever tried this stuff out.
As I have said before, every TKD dojo I have went to has kids that are black belts and good portion of the students who are high belts are out of shape. I am not speaking for everyone though. Each school I was at also had some advanced students that could really kick butt. Now I have checked out several bjj schools. Pretty much all of the students were in great shape and athletic. They sparred full speed to actually practice what was learned to see if it could actually defend you. They were in great shape because their classes made you work out a lot. You practice against big and small sized people with different abilities. Plus all of the high belts were adults who could really kick some butt and had proved it in competition.
Now do I think TKD is bad or am I trying to put it down, NO. I am just trying to point out misconceptions that are unfortunately taught to its students. |
what youve expierienced is sport tkd. sport tkd has not been around, or at least popular for that long. when i was studying we were aloud to punch to face, and work alot on hands, and we kick to legs were i trained.
how is that borrowing other arts? i dont get? a tkd scholl that punches to the face is borrowing from another art? or is it they just punch to face and kick below waste.
i think whole tkd rules that are in place now, came because of people who go to U.S., and other country's to try and make tkd spread. why not many people used to not be involved in martial arts due to how demanding they are, and the amount of time it takes. so they say you get black belt in 2 years, and make the art really i guess unpainful. this is what i believe. is i say before we punch to face, and kick below waste.
i practice tkd in fighting era. today is a sport era. today they mostly train sport, not actually self defense, or actual fighting? everybody i train with was in great shape. and could fight. simply put it, things now are different. this is big problem with all martial arts today.
is possible what evrybody see now is not tkd?