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Old 04-26-2008, 10:45 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by SirokiFighter View Post
what youve expierienced is sport tkd. sport tkd has not been around, or at least popular for that long. when i was studying we were aloud to punch to face, and work alot on hands, and we kick to legs were i trained.

how is that borrowing other arts? i dont get? a tkd scholl that punches to the face is borrowing from another art? or is it they just punch to face and kick below waste.

i think whole tkd rules that are in place now, came because of people who go to U.S., and other country's to try and make tkd spread. why not many people used to not be involved in martial arts due to how demanding they are, and the amount of time it takes. so they say you get black belt in 2 years, and make the art really i guess unpainful. this is what i believe. is i say before we punch to face, and kick below waste.

i practice tkd in fighting era. today is a sport era. today they mostly train sport, not actually self defense, or actual fighting? everybody i train with was in great shape. and could fight. simply put it, things now are different. this is big problem with all martial arts today.

is possible what evrybody see now is not tkd?
I never said we couldnt punch to the face. I never said using hands or punching to the face was not TKD. Where are you seeing that in my post? Please show me. Both of my schools allowed us to punch to the face. It was the fact that there were no or few elbow/knees, no clinch, no throws, no ground, no joint locks. Does you school allow that stuff in sparring? If not, then it is sport, not real. Does you school train that? From your post, it appears that it does not, but you do kick below the waist.

TKD is great for creating the distance. It is not a complete art and therefore you need to crosstrain in other things like judo/bjj. Just as if you train bjj, you should do a stand up. The difference is that in bjj you are training to really fight. TKD has a lot of moves that are not useful for sparring or real fighting and it creates a false sense of security that i think is dangerous. I dont blame the art for this, I blame teachers who dont tell their students that they are not trained fighters. I think many TKD students believe they are trained fighters and watch too many movies and not enough NHB matches. If your TKD school trains the way Muay Tai guys train, then you are probably really training to fight. I have never heard of TKD schools that train like that though and if they did, they would be cutting out a lot their moves because a lot of them arent for real fighting.
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