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Originally Posted by GoddeBPM  And by takedown, I presume not flipping over shoulders kinda stuff but more... Suplex kinda stuff?
But does wrestling have chokes and joint manipulation? | The flipping over the shoulder stuff exists in wrestling as well. Every Judo throw that can be done with out a gi is also a wrestling throw, they just have different names. Yes wrestling does have submission holds. They are not as affective and not practiced as much as the ones in bjj. Here is a great wrestling submission. I can post more if you'd like. Joe you knew I was gonna pick this one!!!!  YouTube - Eddie Bravo: The Twister Roll
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