[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Chapel

Exactly my point. He doesn't understand why he is doing it and so is actually doing it wrong (even in a TKD way). When doing a front hand punch (in TKD) you aren't supposed to switch into a front stance. When you follow it up with a cross, you do (twist hips/shoulders). However, after you finish the punch, you step right back to a fighting stance because the front stance limits mobility and takes power from your kicks. Additionally, if you want to follow it up with a hook (which is not a TKD punch, but whatever) the front stance-to-fighting stance movement is pretty close to what you want to do anyway.

As for horse stance, kick him in the groin tell him you will each and every time you see him doing that in a fight. It is a stance to be used in drills ONLY. It is supposed to build up leg strength and isolate the arms to help make blocks and the like faster for when you are doing it while sparring. Jeez, I mean, you wouldn't attempt to do squats to defend yourself.

Anyway, it seems that your TKD guy has a lot of bad habits to break. I know it kills you for me to say this, but once you manage to break those habits, you will actually improve his TKD. What TKD rank is/was he anyway? Black, almost black, beginner?



First, welcome back to the forums. It has been awhile.

I think you are underestimating the emphasis on not only kicks, but the speed of kicks in TKD. In order to realistically push someone over while they are kicking at you, you either need to be much faster than them, at a superior position than them or both. In that case, I would argue that you are the better martial artist and deserve to win.

For 2 of your 3 possibilities I don't think you will get the result you intend. Namely, the push and the punch to the mid section. There are a lot of difficulties with even executing this because if the TKDist is kicking it is at you and he is in a kicking distance away from you making punching or pushing rather difficult. Now, assuming that the punch or push was successfully executed, if the TKDist is decent, his leg will already be going back to the ground. So, you hope that you will send him tumbling to the ground will be dashed when it just causes him to shift weight a bit. (This really shouldn't be surprising. After all, there is a push that doesn't cause the TKDist to fall each and every time that he makes contact with a kick to a solid object.)

The third situation, with the grabbed leg, is the dangerous one. It is probably the single best argument for cross training, but that being said, any decent TKD school which isn't only playing the sport should teach the limited TKD defense against this. If they are slightly better, they should also reach out to other styles to patch up this weakness.

Yeah, I forgot to include the speed factor. Also to mention control conditions such as what is or isnt allowed.

As what you had stated., are per my posts 157, 158, and 160.