[Draven]

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

Draven,

Everything you have stated is an opinion you have on the social structure of the world. Whether it be socioeconomics or the psychological make up of a criminal. None of what your saying does much to support train this way vs. this way. We keep going in a convoluted circle about fighting for survival as opposed competitive fighting (what ever the hell that is because a fight by nature is competition.) This topic should be about technique and training method. I'll be the first to say it, hate on me if you want, military training means jack and sh*t when comes to fighting. I've knocked out an ex-army ranger before and I'm pretty sure I can do it again. Now put a gun in that dudes hands and I'm done for sure

I put that up in bold because I also left quotes from online psychology manuals, mostly definitions. Triangle the issue is not who is bigger and badder. I'm not thats why I carry a gun to shoot people who think they are, I carry a knife because I could run out of bullets None of this has to do with style Vs Style but training as you said... Its about training, your training is geared toward skill and ability only. Mine trains for skill and ability, but also learning attention to detail, basic human psychology and spotting dangerous situations. You teach people to fight and I teach people to avoid dangerous situations where they don't have to fight and then how to fight once there. Thats allot to bite off from my stand point...

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

So to the critics of sports martial arts (not one person here but in general) I have this to say. I'm a fighter, I train fighters thats what I do. Every theory you have had and discussed I've put on the mat and tested. Some work some suck, some worked but, I can't use them still they are valid. My training includes getting punched and kicked in the face and body, slammed to the mat having my body put in submission holds to the point of not just pain but unbearable pain and getting choked into unconsciousness. I drink my own blood and sweat like you drink kool-aide. I'm not bringing this up because I'm the most bad ass dude or whatever I'm not boasting, I'm brining it up because it's reality I'm stating facts. Can a guy who trains by going through complex patterns of movement or Kata, breaking boards and meditating knock me out? Hell yes he can!! Does that mean that they will? Hell no it doesn't!! It makes no sense to me how some one who has never trained full contact thinks that they are going to suddenly leave the gym (or whatever) and be a Jedi laying waste to all who oppose them. I know there are certain techniques that I don't train, eye gouges and groin kicks, because if I did that the way I train I'd be blind and sterile by now. The same goes for you. You can't train those techniques anymore then I can but, yet you can pull them off better and faster then I can throw a cross that I've landed thousands of times in real life?

Actually you can train eye gouges, use the swim goggle that just cover your eye and some medical tape to seal the edges so no fingers slip under them. That way you can train to hit the eyes, in a fight. As for the groin well, they make pads for that to lol.

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

So which is better? Neither is inherently better only the way you train makes a difference. Train what you want and how you want, do it because you enjoy it. But the truth is a fighter stands a better chance in a fight, doesn't matter what the style is.

Cheers and good luck training

Same to you... Good luck...