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Originally Posted by Sake Sipper

Oh in your books? Well, why didn't you say so? Since apparently your books are magic books that make things mean whatever the heck you want them to, then that makes perfect sense.

Yes, it also makes perfect sense that the Japanese Government in WW2 and throughout the Shino war (Japan's conflict before and through American involvment in ww2) they impressed the idea of modern Samurai upon their soldiers. In the soldiers' "books" they were samurai and whose book is more important your's or their's? In reality your beliefs and in turn their own beliefs mean nothing if others simply do not agree with them. To the soldier who needs motivation the idea of being the modern Samurai is an important idea, for your historical-minded beliefs the idea seems "less then practical." But, to each individual their book is the "magic book" that makes all things right...

Originally Posted by Chapel

A samurai rebellion is an interesting concept if only because they were supposed to be 100 percent loyal to their country (I think), which would, in theory, involve following unjust laws and moving through the proper channels to make changes to those laws. I hope I am not talking out of my ass here, I am only vague recalling some study I did a while back on Shinto belief.

Well yes and no, swearing loyalty is not the same as mindlessly following orders. Comparing the modernization of many ideas, I'll go with the here in the U.S. all soldiers, marines, seamen and airmen take an oath to up hold the constitution and the ideas of the consitution. By that standard Bush became an enemy to the ideas and the constitution itself when he called "just a piece of paper." So some civic-minded Veteran or Soldier trying to take out Bush as part of thier oath to "defend the constitution" could be justified in that persons mind. By comparision a samurai who swore an oath to Bushido and to the spirit of his path could see the Empirer's actions as debasing that spirit and thus rebellion would seen morally correct in that individual's mind. The issue of which is, what is more correct to follow an infalible idea or a falible person?

Originally Posted by SomeStupidGuy

I would definitely consider an undercover government agent more of the modern day ninja, than what most schools call, "Ninjitsu"

Careful thats an arguement that is shared with the "fake" ninjitsu schools and the very real Nakano Espionage School in WW2

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Why cant there be samurai existing in these times like ninjas?

Samurai was a class while ninja was a term for those who existed outside that class. In many ways the Japanese Defense Force could be seen as modern Samurai the same way a modern spy pr terrorist could be seen as a modern ninja.