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Old 06-10-2008, 10:31 AM   #80 (permalink)
Draven

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LOL this conversation is gold!! It's gold Jerry I tell you gold!!!!

Draven could you please summarize your position.

My position ninjas aren't real, not in the sense that most think of them anyway.

Sure...

Samurai Arguement:
A soldier told to embrace the spirit of bushido and became a "modern samurai" isn't returning to a fuedual culture, but it is still reviving the preception of being "elite" by "serving a higher cause" and in turn motivating that individual to act. This is no different then cult-like psuedo-religious indocturination; the cause a false belief system has the effect of inspiring a person to act as such.

To the individual he/her faith in being a samurai is how they define themselves and they will begin living up to that belief. This IS NOT recreating the cast system but using the cast system as a social definitiuon based on the ideology. Basically telling someone they are a samurai to get to them to act with respect and discipline is the same as telling someone you'll get 70 virgins in the after-life if you blow yourself up.

Ninja Arguement:
Since the term ninja (shinobi) existed as a label to either those who either existed outside of normal society (spies, assassins, criminals, rebels, etc) it isn't a cast title and/or that the term in ninja means "one who endures/hides/is invisible" etc and that ninjutsu means "Enduring or Invisible Art" one who endures or in invisible (stealthy) by practicing ninjutsu could be called a ninja.

I DO NOT belive in black clad assassins running around on roof tops and urban legends of ninja clans in the mountains lol
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