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Originally Posted by Joemoplata

So then would you say someone who is lifting weights everyday to get more muscle than the would normally have is cheating? What about people who buy stretching machines to increase their flexibility. What about people that eat certain foods or diet so they have more energy.

Cutting weight is no different than any of the things I've listed above. If you are able to withstand the process of cutting, which is hard to do, then you deserve the opportunity to compete at that weight. No different than putting the time in the gym to add muscle. If you have the drive and dedication to do it, then good for you. You have an advantage over those who can't.

Dead on!!

Originally Posted by Gambatte Karate

Actually Joe, it's not the same. You see, lifting every day is a semi-perminant thing. It develops the muscles over a long period of time, and they stay around for a long period of time even after you stop lifting. The same could be said for stretching. If you have a stretching machine, you are no better off than one who doesn't. Ask Bill Wallace. I trained with him once, and he said when he was younger, he didn't use them. He said he simply stretched while in his off time because he didn't like to waste time. Also, stretching to become more flexible is also a thing which is semi-perminant. I know a woman who is in excess of 300 lbs...but because of her TKD training before she had thyroid problems, she can still do the splits.

Cutting weight is temporary. You gain it back within a day or two.

No they are all temporary things. If I could gain muscle mass and then never do anything again to keep it then it would be permanent but, I have to continue to lift diet and so on to keep my gains. Same with stretching, stop stretching for a year and then tell me if you can still do the splits.

To compete at a high level you need your body to perform at a high level. Dumping the excess only makes sense, you also get the benefits from fasting which are awesome. To compete in a light contact tournament you don't need to cut weight because no one is going to wrestle you or try to knock you out. To compete in either wrestling grappling or MMA you need to be at your physical best.

Originally Posted by drallig9399

Wow I thought the guys on Ult Fighter were exaggerating but I guess not. I dont think I could be a cutter. I dont think I have the testicular fortitude ( to quote Mankind/Dude Love) to go through that process. It seems like its worse than the other training you have to do combined.

No it totally sucks but, it is required at certain levels of competition.

Originally Posted by Gambatte Karate

Trust me, cutting is no joke. I have a lot of respect for the guys who do it, but...I won't do it,or advise it to my students. A couple pounds, 1-3...maybe a little harder workout, but not 15 or 20.

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