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Originally Posted by flashlock  I want to know why people still take karate.
I have many problems with kartate and its related branches (TKD, TSD, Kempo, etc.). Maybe there's something I'm missing. I sincerely want to understand why people still are passionate about this system.
1. Its failure as stand up in MMA compared to Muy Thai.
2. Its unrealistic training, i.e. marching doing blocks and chambered punches far too slow to do even during sparring.
3. No real grappling, when grappling has been proved to be so essential to fighting.
4. Black belt factories: people getting balck belts in 2 years that are kids or have big beer bellies (it's ridiculous).
5. Wasting time on forms/ kata. It has very little value if any, but maybe others think it is very helpful... why?
Thank you for answering these points... |
This is more a TMA vs MMA argument....which no one will ever win no matter how many people are put into the cage.
As others will argue: MMA is a sport, their arts are for real self defense. Also MMA is for one person, not multiple and not about weapons.
Also, its not really about the art, more or less, rather the way you train. Most MMA schools do live fighting, most TMAs do not, so you are more likely to really be prepared for a fight in MMA.
I believe MMA is better than all of the TMAs for real fighting, not because of the arts but because in mma you are going to train to fight, practice fighting, and only learn and use what actually works. There is no BS training. Plus you will get in better shape. You will not waste time. Also, the majority of people in mma are athletic and tough, so you are going to be practicing with some hard individuals, which is good in my opinion.
Other people do martial arts for various reasons. and remember MMA is not training for street self defense, however I would guess that most mma students would fare much better than TMA students in street situations.
I believe a lot of the stuff learned in most TMA Schools is a joke. However there are TMA schools out there not teaching the crap stuff. Too bad a majority are, giving those few schools a bad rep. overall, it depends what your goals are. if you want to really learn to fight, you are probably better off at a mma school than tkd school.
While I believe mma is the best for fighting, I only do bjj. I am trying to get a good base on the ground and at least to blue belt level in bjj. at that point I will reevaluate and see if i want to start mma or a stand up art like boxing or MT. However, I never see myself actually competing in MMA. I do plan to compete in bjj though. MMA is a bit to extreme for me injury wise.