Aikido

[47MartialMan]

I wont rule out some of their applicable tactics

[Bobbin Threadbare]

"Upon what do you base this claim?"

The years I spent studying Aikido as well as my exposure to Judo and wrestling forms. Whenever you put a competitively-oriented slant on something, it simplifies because certain things are just to florid or elaborate to work in that context. The nuances of competition may be complex themselves, but they aren't intrinsically linked to one art or another.

As to the teachers, my instruction was quite practical, at least in the context of what we're talking about. We weren't making ki balls. However, the tactics are pretty theoretical. The ukemi we used/responded to weren't effective attacks, even when delivered quickly.

Anyway, all this was in response to the query if there was anything WRONG with Aikido and there is, just like anything else. I could go further if I wanted to; a lack of ground defense comes to mind. I'm still basically a fan of Aikido and recommend people try it out before forming their own opinion of it. Under optimal conditions, it can be really amazing.

[Unkotare]

Originally Posted by Bobbin Threadbare

"Upon what do you base this claim?"

The years I spent studying Aikido as well as my exposure to Judo and wrestling forms. .

What kind of "exposure" to judo and wrestling (forms?!)?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Bobbin Threadbare

Anyway, all this was in response to the query if there was anything WRONG with Aikido and there is, just like anything else. I could go further if I wanted to; a lack of ground defense comes to mind. I'm still basically a fan of Aikido and recommend people try it out before forming their own opinion of it. Under optimal conditions, it can be really amazing.

Indeed, a with anything, simply to judge without "THOROUGH" partcipation, is unjust

[Bobbin Threadbare]

"What kind of "exposure" to judo and wrestling (forms?!)?"

Through MMA schools. I just prefer not to refer to it as "study" in those specific arts because it was blended together in such a way that the tactics I was taught to employ could, for example, incorporate Judo, BJJ and GR Wrestling. I simply wouldn't call myself a Judo student under that premise. However, that still leaves me far from ignorant on such matters.

[Unkotare]

Ah, it seems you understand less than you think and certainly not enough to declare one or another "simpler."

[Bobbin Threadbare]

Seeing as simpler fundamentally translates to "more efficient," I'm not sure why you find it necessary to be so defensive on this matter.

[Unkotare]

Not defensive, you simply made a statement you are not qualified to make.

[Bobbin Threadbare]

I don't see how you can assume that. I answered your rude question about my qualification, which I guess you were too stupid to understand. If you want to dismiss my opinion on this matter, which is fairly common in the MMA community, go ahead but do so by dropping it rather than insulting me.

The bottom line is if I found Aikido harder to pick up than other grappling arts, it's more complex for me.

[Unkotare]

Originally Posted by Bobbin Threadbare

I don't see how you can assume that. I answered your rude question about my qualification, which I guess you were too stupid to understand. If you want to dismiss my opinion on this matter, which is fairly common in the MMA community, go ahead but do so by dropping it rather than insulting me.

The bottom line is if I found Aikido harder to pick up than other grappling arts, it's more complex for me.

You haven't really trained judo or wrestling so you really don't know at all.

[Bobbin Threadbare]

Ah, so you were too stupid to understand. I studied them at a MMA school in conjunction with eachother. Learn to read, kid.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Bobbin Threadbare

I don't see how you can assume that. I answered your rude question about my qualification, which I guess you were too stupid to understand. If you want to dismiss my opinion on this matter, which is fairly common in the MMA community, go ahead but do so by dropping it rather than insulting me.

The bottom line is if I found Aikido harder to pick up than other grappling arts, it's more complex for me.

Let me understand, you had studied Judo, JJ, Wrestling, and Aikido, separately?

[Bobbin Threadbare]

"Let me understand, you had studied Judo, JJ, Wrestling, and Aikido, separately?"

I studied Aikido by itself, hence why I bother to explicitly state that is an art I studied.

I also went to a couple of MMA schools for about a year apiece that, on the grappling end, mainly incorporated Judo, BJJ and Greco-Roman Wrestling. Instructors came from different backgrounds. As such, time was divided amongst the arts and it's not like we were getting belts in one thing or another. I know more than enough to know what's easy to pick up and what's not.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Unkotare is a troll. I looked at his post history and it's almost entirely comprised of arguments and insults. I'm just going to ignore him from here on out.

[Unkotare]

Originally Posted by Bobbin Threadbare

Ah, so you were too stupid to understand. I studied them at a MMA school in conjunction with eachother. Learn to read, kid.

Are you trying to mislead, or are you just too proud to admit you misrepresented youreself and are not qualified to make the judgment you did?



You have done some MMA. You have not 'trained' judo or wrestling. Find someone at your MMA club who has and maybe they can help you understand the difference and you won't have to worry about losing face like you are here.

[Unkotare]

Originally Posted by Bobbin Threadbare

I also went to a couple of MMA schools for about a year apiece that, on the grappling end, mainly incorporated Judo, BJJ and Greco-Roman Wrestling.

So in other words, you trained MMA (briefly) and NOT judo or wrestling. Got it.