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Old 11-09-2007, 10:13 PM   #46 (permalink)

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"Let me understand, you had studied Judo, JJ, Wrestling, and Aikido, separately?"

I studied Aikido by itself, hence why I bother to explicitly state that is an art I studied.

I also went to a couple of MMA schools for about a year apiece that, on the grappling end, mainly incorporated Judo, BJJ and Greco-Roman Wrestling. Instructors came from different backgrounds. As such, time was divided amongst the arts and it's not like we were getting belts in one thing or another. I know more than enough to know what's easy to pick up and what's not.

Anyway, it doesn't matter. Unkotare is a troll. I looked at his post history and it's almost entirely comprised of arguments and insults. I'm just going to ignore him from here on out.

Well, people tend to get exacerbated upon seeing posts that are not fully understood, loquacious, or opposite of their view.

But just because one art seem more complex, or longer to study than the next, doesnt lend it to be useless.

Though, I agree, Aikido can get complex.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:19 PM   #47 (permalink)

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No, it means over that course of time, I studied those arts at the same place. I didn't study "MMA" as if it were a specific style.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:23 PM   #48 (permalink)

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No, it means over that course of time, I studied those arts at the same place. I didn't study "MMA" as if it were a specific style.


MMA is specific type of traing. If someone joins a MMA club for a short time they have not suddenly become boxers, MT fighters, wrestlers, judoka, or the like. You spent a fraction of your training time trying to learn a few techniques from other forms of fighting, that is all. And that's fine for MMA training, but it does not mean you have anywhere near enough experience or familiarity to make the claims that you have. Swallow your pride and get over it already.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:27 PM   #49 (permalink)

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You're forgetting what we're talking about. I never said I was a master judoka. But I don't have to be to know that the moves are more easily applied than those in Aikido. Besides, it's such a common complaint about Aikido in the first place that arguing with me about it is completely masturbatory on your part even I were misinformed, which I'm not.

Anyway, your mom wanted me to remind you its time for bed. Don't forget to brush your teeth.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:30 PM   #50 (permalink)

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Sounds like children in a playground.......
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It's more a matter of someone who doesn't understand English very well and uses it as an excuse to argue.
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It's more a matter of someone who doesn't understand English very well and uses it as an excuse to argue.
I see. But since we are martial artists with certain disciplines, we can disagree. Because we have conscious thought before we type, we can even demonstrate better discipline and restraint. Therefore, unlike physical fighting, we have a chance to post in good form. Disagree yes, but straight out name calling and galking...not good.

I suggest to get back on topic, or go into other threads or other discussions of other threads....
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I agree. As such, I don't think I should have to worry about "saving face" because a belligerent trouble-maker neither agrees nor understands what I say. To disagree would be fine, but attacking my credibility is another matter.
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I agree. As such, I don't think I should have to worry about "saving face" because a belligerent trouble-maker neither agrees nor understands what I say. To disagree would be fine, but attacking my credibility is another matter.

Attacking credibility on a forum, is one casting doubt, beliefs, opinions. If one holds true what they believe, then another's words will not be so.

Sticks and stones....we are on a forum, not in a face to face dueling scenario.

No excuses are needed

For no such wording be also....

The more disciplined is the one with more to gain.
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I never said I was a master judoka. But I don't have to be to know that the moves are more easily applied than those in Aikido.


You haven't experienced enough to make the claims you did earlier. How hard is it for you to understand that?
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It's more a matter of someone who doesn't understand English very well and uses it as an excuse to argue.
You know, there is a very good chance that I understand English far better than you do.
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I understand the concept, although you don't understand and don't seem to be willing to understand how much experience I have. I did not learn MMA as one style, some nights we approached things together and some separately. Judo was a big part of that, at least a quarter. With me going 4 times a week, that's one night of Judo each week for 2 years. It's ludicrous to say this isn't adequate exposure to be able to say the moves are quick/slow to pick up or not.
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It's ludicrous to say this isn't adequate exposure to be able to say the moves are quick/slow to pick up or not.
It would be ludicrous to say anything else, and any judoka with 10+ years of experience will tell you that they didn't know squat after the equivalent amount of training, which was probably a lot more serious than (even granting your tortured and imaginative calculations) once a week.

The fact that your pride won't allow you to just admit that you are not qualified to make the judgment you did has become an issue in itself.
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Round 2...or 3?...where are the Ring Girls?
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I think she may be one, the way she keeps running around this same failed issue.
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