Aikido

[JackG]

Hey guys Can I get some info on aikido please , I intrested in the art but atm Jitsu is taking up all my money and time so i cant practise now but in future i would like to any info would would be great thanks

[sirdarksol]

I'm guessing you know the basics (soft art, redirects attacker energy, etc...)
It is said that one of the reasons it was developed from Jiu Jitsu is that the master (name escapes me) wanted an art in which he could disable an attacker without harming. This is not to say that the art cannot be used to hurt a person, just that it can be used in a way that doesn't hurt a person.
It is effective not only for self defense against an attacker, but in just moving around. You are training your body to fall without injury and to absorb impact.

[disgruntled]

it is very much about controlling the energy flow of your attacker. it is very graceful and low impact if you know the techniques. it is SD based not kicking. lots of throws trips and joint manipulation.

[Chapel]

The founding philosophy behind it is that violence begets more violence and so it seeks to end that cycle by not matching force with force, but rather controlling the force that already exists.

[sirdarksol]

Every time I say something, Chapel comes along and puts it much more eloquently. And to think I'm going into creative writing. I think I'm going to have to study this person.

[Chapel]

Nah, I'm just parotting others I've heard. If I try to write creativly it comes out like crap.

[Militis]

This thread is old and unused, but no sense in making another "Aikido" thread.

Aside from the martial art that I study, I have recently started attending some free Aikido classes with some guys that wanted to get martial arts into our community. I have to say, this stuff is very impressive. I am used to techniques that work(that might even be an understatement) but you are able to do them effectively only after doing them a lot. Like most martial arts, my art is based on muscle memory. But Aikido was a real eye opener.

It's crazy. I go in there and start working with some guys and I start getting chewed out because I'm not doing it right. They said to simply "feel the other persons force".

Now I am used to, "if the guy comes at you like this, a good roundhouse to the solar plex followed by a hammer to the head should do the trick", and it does. But this was the complete opposite of every thing I have learned. ( I am in a hurry I'll continue this later)

[47MartialMan]

Like any art, each has their pros and cons....

[Militis]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Like any art, each has their pros and cons....

Which was my point exactly. I can't seem to find any cons with aikido. It makes complete sense. The only bad thing is if some meth adict is fighting you and he doesn't stop when a normal person would, but there are moves even for that.

Does anyone have anything bad to say about Aikido? If you do, please post it, then I will go test it out this week. I seriously can't find a weakness. It is all about feeling the other's movements and motion, so you can't really screw up if you completely relax and go with the flow.

Like I said, I can't seem to find any cons for this art, and there just has to be. Please post some that you either know of or think you know of. I will post back with the results.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Militis

Which was my point exactly. I can't seem to find any cons with aikido. It makes complete sense. The only bad thing is if some meth adict is fighting you and he doesn't stop when a normal person would, but there are moves even for that.

Does anyone have anything bad to say about Aikido? If you do, please post it, then I will go test it out this week. I seriously can't find a weakness. It is all about feeling the other's movements and motion, so you can't really screw up if you completely relax and go with the flow.

Like I said, I can't seem to find any cons for this art, and there just has to be. Please post some that you either know of or think you know of. I will post back with the results.

Because Aikido is circular, it is great against linear/direct attacks. Contrary to films, it has limitations in close quarters.

I have persionally seen some Aikidoists not do so well in confrontations.

There was even a "expert", who challenged anyone at a local tourney for a exhibition.

A person accepted, and the Aikidoist circled, but could not block every combination thrown. In other words, the challenger faked out the man. Worse, they went into ground mode and the Aikidoist could not counter.

But, as with anything, the practitoners make the art.

[Militis]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Because Aikido is circular, it is great against linear/direct attacks. Contrary to films, it has limitations in close quarters.

I have persionally seen some Aikidoists not do so well in confrontations.

There was even a "expert", who challenged anyone at a local tourney for a exhibition.

A person accepted, and the Aikidoist circled, but could not block every combination thrown. In other words, the challenger faked out the man. Worse, they went into ground mode and the Aikidoist could not counter.

But, as with anything, the practitoners make the art.

Ya you are totally right. But I'm going to test this this Sunday. Close confrontations...

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Militis

Ya you are totally right. But I'm going to test this this Sunday. Close confrontations...

Test in Aikido?

[JackG]

Originally Posted by Militis

This thread is old and unused, but no sense in making another "Aikido" thread.

Aside from the martial art that I study, I have recently started attending some free Aikido classes with some guys that wanted to get martial arts into our community. I have to say, this stuff is very impressive. I am used to techniques that work(that might even be an understatement) but you are able to do them effectively only after doing them a lot. Like most martial arts, my art is based on muscle memory. But Aikido was a real eye opener.

It's crazy. I go in there and start working with some guys and I start getting chewed out because I'm not doing it right. They said to simply "feel the other persons force".

Now I am used to, "if the guy comes at you like this, a good roundhouse to the solar plex followed by a hammer to the head should do the trick", and it does. But this was the complete opposite of every thing I have learned. ( I am in a hurry I'll continue this later)

It's probably the difference from an offensive/attacking art to an art thats is purely defensive/countering

[Militis]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Test in Aikido?

No, test the things that you said were weaknesses. I am going to see if they really are. Not that I don't trust your input, that's just what I do.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Militis

No, test the things that you said were weaknesses. I am going to see if they really are. Not that I don't trust your input, that's just what I do.

Oh- so you are going to test the weakness/flaws of Aikido....right?