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09-13-2007, 09:32 PM
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| Brown Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Long Island Styles: American Jiu Jitsu, Jeet Kune Do, Kendo/Fencing
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Home Country: | JapaneseJiuJitsu vs. Aikido? |
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09-13-2007, 09:43 PM
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| Master III
Join Date: Nov 2006
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Home Country: | I vote not to have any more threads of "This vs That"
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
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09-13-2007, 11:43 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Island Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Boxing, Nunchackudo, Ninjitsu
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Home Country: | Martial Man... I never thought I would see the day where we both see 100% eye to eye.
Japanese Jiujitsu is about ending a fight by dropping someone on the ground hard. Aikido is about ending a fight by causing joint pain and dislocations. Different, but both effective. |
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09-13-2007, 11:47 PM
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| Master III
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Home Country: | Hmmmn, based upon that Aikido actually came from Ju Jitsu......could put them equal.
However, as with ALL of these TVT threads, we always say it isnt the art but the artist.
Shame, that forums have the same rhetoric over and over
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
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09-14-2007, 12:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Island Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Boxing, Nunchackudo, Ninjitsu
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan Shame, that forums have the same rhetoric over and over | If we have a rhetoric building up then we just might need to have a greater variety of post topics. |
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09-14-2007, 12:08 AM
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| Master III
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Originally Posted by Chapel If we have a rhetoric building up then we just might need to have a greater variety of post topics. |  Or I could put up more controversial subjects.......er I mean conversational subjects
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
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09-14-2007, 12:12 AM
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Home Country: | Let's keep in conversational... I know its against your nature,  but I thank you for trying so hard recently.
So anyone disagree that the two arts are pretty much on the same ground especially considering the shared heritage? |
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09-14-2007, 12:15 AM
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| Master III
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Originally Posted by Chapel Let's keep in conversational... I know its against your nature,  but I thank you for trying so hard recently.
So anyone disagree that the two arts are pretty much on the same ground especially considering the shared heritage? | I wonder why so many people think Aikido is ineffective?
Grant the BS from a lot of their Ki demos and they dont actually compete, cannot rule out that there is some good defensive tactics there.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
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09-14-2007, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Long Island Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Hapkido, Boxing, Nunchackudo, Ninjitsu
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Home Country: | Definitely, Aikido is very decent for self defense as it was formed as a way to end the cycle of violence (violence begets more violence). I know of maybe 2 or 3 Aikido techniques that I know pretty much solely for the purpose of demonstrative the difference between Aikido and Hapkido. When I was showing a friend of mine his exact question was "Why does that hurt?" He saw how we were moving and wouldn't expect that motion to cause pain simply from watching it. |
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09-14-2007, 04:06 PM
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| Purple Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bend, Oregon Styles: Nonaka Ryu Ju-jutsu
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Home Country: | Japanese Jiujitsu vs. Aikido Hello All - I have to ask a question - What the Heck is (Japanese Jiujitsu)? I have studied the martial arts for over 45 years, and ive not heard of Japanese Jiujitsu
Chapel....Aikido, also has quiet a few Methods that will take an Attacker down Hard Enouph to cause a KO! I have used some of these methods as a Police Officer, and as a Body guard  |
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09-14-2007, 04:34 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Clemente, CA Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Hwa Rang Do
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Originally Posted by Tom Hello All - I have to ask a question - What the Heck is (Japanese Jiujitsu)? I have studied the martial arts for over 45 years, and ive not heard of Japanese Jiujitsu  | Jiu Jitsu was originally a Japanese style of martial arts. Mitsuo Maeda went to Brazil and taught Gracie brothers, who in turned developed it into their own Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Read Maeda's bio for additional info. Mitsuyo Maeda - Complete Martial Arts.com |
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09-14-2007, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bend, Oregon Styles: Nonaka Ryu Ju-jutsu
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Home Country: | Thank You for the explanation of Japanese Jiujitsu  I havent seen that spelling (Jiujitsu) before! |
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09-14-2007, 04:44 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: San Clemente, CA Styles: Tae Kwon Do, Tang Soo Do, Hwa Rang Do
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Home Country: | I think it's spelled "Ju Jitsu" most of the time. |
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09-14-2007, 06:06 PM
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| Red / Black Belt
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Egypt Styles: Full Attack
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Originally Posted by Chapel Let's keep in conversational... I know its against your nature,  but I thank you for trying so hard recently.
So anyone disagree that the two arts are pretty much on the same ground especially considering the shared heritage? | they are almost the same Quote:
Originally Posted by 47MartialMan I wonder why so many people think Aikido is ineffective?
Grant the BS from a lot of their Ki demos and they dont actually compete, cannot rule out that there is some good defensive tactics there. | i believe tht it is effective but it had its time so u can't make a plan to catch a striker attack from the beginning of match but u could use it when u became in closer range |
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09-14-2007, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by complete I think it's spelled "Ju Jitsu" most of the time. | No. That was the old samurai way that is a pre-mature version of Judo that was used to throw the opponent on his head and use the weight of his armor to crush him. Japanese Jiu Jitsu is similar to Brazillian. |
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