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This is a great video and as much as I will get attacked left right and centre for saying this but it is true, the difference is there are very few fully committed single attacks in mma and that is what most tma's are based on defending against - the drunken idiot who can only throw a nice big haymaker
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So what exactly does Seagal claim to be able to do? It wasn't specified in the video.
I agree in part with the video, Aikido for a fulloy co,mmited atack is effective, however, let's be fair if your asked to "have it out" outside, then both people know what's coming so fully commited attacks may become negated, right?
Oh, and Seagal is still a douche.
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This is a great video and as much as I will get attacked left right and centre for saying this but it is true, the difference is there are very few fully committed single attacks in mma and that is what most tma's are based on defending against - the drunken idiot who can only throw a nice big haymaker
Doing lots of MMA training these days, are you?
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Every attack has an element of defence from a certain point, thats why a kick is often quickly tucked back etc.
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there are very few fully committed single attacks in mma
That's a very definitive statement, one given with some authority so I was just wondering if you have been doing MMA training these days? To comment on what type of attacks there are in MMA would suggest that you train MMA.
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Yeah, I'm gonna have to say he can. I've seen it actually, and it's really quite amazing.
As far as aikido in mma, there are several different techniques in aikido for different situations, and many of them wouldn't work in mma because of basically what this guy said. But there are some that would work, and very effectively. I think I would be right in naming iriminage, tekubitori, and kotegaishi, most notably. There are also some kick defenses that could end an mma match real fast if applied correctly. Although it would be a lot like fishing. You would just have to avoid blows until you see one you like, and use that one for the technique. But who said aikido would be all you could use?
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I don't know if this is the right time or thread to bring up the incident that happened a while ago with Steven Seagal and Gene LeBell. Anybody remember this?
The reason Aikido isn't really looked to for MMA training isn't because of the techniques, it's because of the training methodologies.
Aikido prohibits sparring. Without sparring, it's just not a practical art to study on it's own for MMA.
True that. But there's no reason a mixed martial artist couldn't learn one or two effective techniques just to get a little bit of an edge in the octagon.
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I don't know if this is the right time or thread to bring up the incident that happened a while ago with Steven Seagal and Gene LeBell. Anybody remember this?
Of course, that story is legendary.
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True that. But there's no reason a mixed martial artist couldn't learn one or two effective techniques just to get a little bit of an edge in the octagon.
Trust me here, there is nothing that isn't being tried for MMA. Where I train, which has an MMA team, we have head Aikido instructors that train with us. In fact, our Yamasaki D.C. location is located within an Aikido school. If you're not seeing certain moves in MMA it's probably because they haven't been found to be very efficient or within the ruleset, not because the fighters don't know about the techniques.
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That's a very definitive statement, one given with some authority so I was just wondering if you have been doing MMA training these days? To comment on what type of attacks there are in MMA would suggest that you train MMA.
Actually you can tell just from watching, e.g. the simple act of weighing each other up with jabs etc.
Can Steven Seagal do what he does on film?
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