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Old 06-28-2008, 01:53 PM   #46 (permalink)

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Logic is a better choice. However, you had attacked me in the past also.

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Your styles you have mentioned seemed more of a spin-off of other styles. Not that there is anything entirely wrong with this, but the way they are presented, lack proper descend or relevance.

For example:

Shaolin Kuei;

If you mean kuei as gui, than this is a menacing spirit.

Judo Jutsu... because the "do" on Judo means art, soe does jutsu...so it is like sasing Jentle Art Art (Though some will say that do also means "way", jutsu is also considered as a "way".)

Katana Do...there is already a "sword art/way"....I wonder if you know what it is...

Atemi Aiki Jutsu would be like saying Stand-up Mixed Martial Arts

hmm................................

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Old 06-28-2008, 01:55 PM   #47 (permalink)

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Exactly. Research the Lin Kuei. Then get back to me. Hey....they might even have a wiki article....since you're a five-minute scholar, give us your thesis here in T-minus 5.....4.....3....



Well, if you're Japanese and speak japanese, you'd understand that it's not weird to say: "The Way of the Gentle Art". I'm not confined to simple dictionary searches. I can speak full sentences. I also think it's funny to call an art Brazilian Jiujitsu. Maybe they should call it Brazilian interpretations of Japanese Jujitsu? They much dishonor their forebears by honoring themselves. Why Jujitsu, then? Why not The Brazilian Gentle Art. Or, Gracie Gentle Art? They're small differences.

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Or, it would be like saying......Atemi Aiki Jutsu.
i agree with the brazillian jiu jitsu statemnet. kind of a oxymoron isnt it?

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Old 06-28-2008, 02:04 PM   #48 (permalink)

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Something is lost in the translation from the Japanese. My teacher devised those translations, and as I honor my teacher, I stick with his English versions of the names. Besides, I like how they sound.

Personally, I don't think attacking me and my teacher and our third-language translation of our katas is the proper way to debunk my cogent and clearly reasoned arguments. Perhaps logic is a better choice.
how did your teacher say mega style katana-do in japanese, how did he write it?
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how did your teacher say mega style katana-do in japanese, how did he write it?
I don't know how to write in Japanese characters on the web.

But Mega Style Katana Do is really something more akin to (in my more precise word-for-word transliteration) "The way of the Long Katana Style". In other words, we prefer the longer length of the katana prescribed by Mahamuto Musashi, vs. the more popular shorter length. This is often a moot point nowadays, since katanas aren't quibbled over by length. But we're more tradiitional in our approach.

GM Takeshi Ukeno did not know much English. He also did not know how to translate very well, and so some of his translations are imprecise. But if they sufficed for him, they suffice for me. I know their Japanese and Chinese names, so it's no big deal. English is unimportant.
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As I was saying....
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Exactly. Research the Lin Kuei. Then get back to me. Hey....they might even have a wiki article....since you're a five-minute scholar, give us your thesis here in T-minus 5.....4.....3....
Wiki articles can be written by anyone. Tjey are not concise and accurate all of the time.


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Well, if you're Japanese and speak japanese, you'd understand that it's not weird to say: "The Way of the Gentle Art". I'm not confined to simple dictionary searches. I can speak full sentences. I also think it's funny to call an art Brazilian Jiujitsu. Maybe they should call it Brazilian interpretations of Japanese Jujitsu? They much dishonor their forebears by honoring themselves. Why Jujitsu, then? Why not The Brazilian Gentle Art. Or, Gracie Gentle Art? They're small differences.
You speak full Japanese? Hmmmn, say something here and lets have one of our members here who are very familiar with Japanese find out how accurate you are.

You description of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu seemingly being "bastardized", seem to be that of the "pot calling the kettle black"


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Maybe you need to heed your own advice.


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Indeed, I do.
Yet, it would seem that you strive to change the names of martial arts to suit your interpretations that are incorrect within the culture of origin language.


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Or, it would be like saying......Atemi Aiki Jutsu.
Hmmm, because Aiki Jutsu has "atemiwaza" included. It would seem that this is a "spinoff" to ONLY included atemi waza. Thus not righteously circumventing other proper studies.
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What do you mean my this after my post? (I am not gettng offensive - I am just curous)
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