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Old 02-02-2007, 09:27 PM   #31
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What about in Capoeira?
They use 2 colored ropes to indicate rank. Their double blue seems to be the equivalent of a 1st Dan in Tae Kwon Do.
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Old 02-03-2007, 05:39 AM   #32
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i realize that, but technically it's ranking.
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Old 02-03-2007, 09:56 AM   #33
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capieora isnt chinese though, so what does that have to do with this
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Old 02-03-2007, 10:51 AM   #34
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True, sorry I wasn't paying attention to the thread name there, but still I do believe that Belts have good aspects and just useless aspects.
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Old 02-14-2007, 10:04 PM   #35
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CMA don't use belts but to hold your pants up. In fact, CMA uses Confusiusim for it's social structure.

If you teacher has decided to use belts then they are borrowing traditions from other cultures.
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:26 AM   #36
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CMA don't use belts but to hold your pants up. In fact, CMA uses Confusiusim for it's social structure.

If you teacher has decided to use belts then they are borrowing traditions from other cultures.

Actually using belts are NOT borrowing TRADITIONS from other CULTURES
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Old 11-30-2008, 12:11 AM   #37
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CMA don't use belts but to hold your pants up. In fact, CMA uses Confusiusim for it's social structure.

If you teacher has decided to use belts then they are borrowing traditions from other cultures.
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Old 02-13-2009, 11:02 AM   #38
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I think that a sash/belt system in Chinese martial arts is neccessary in the U.s. but not so much in China or other asian countries. It seems that most Americans want some way to measure there progression and success and a belt system is a way to do that. With out a belt system I don't think a school would be as successful. Just my humble opinion.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. The belts are kind of like getting a pat on the back, they make you feel good but they don’t do much for you.
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I know Jeet Kune Do is not a traditional chinese art. But Bruce lee's schools never used belts or uniforms. Rank could be achieved but it was in a certificate not in a belt. I take TKD and maybe because of the culture here in America getting my black belt was important to me. I think it helps having belts to measure progress and where u should be for your rank. However belts are a modern thing created by Jigoro Kano the father of modern Judo. Before that there were no color belts only white an black. If your only there to increase in rank than you are misssing all the glory of what your style has to offer.
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One of the problems with the belts though, is its not standardized at all. Depending on the MA and the school they can be totally different. So I can say I have a fuschia belt and that doesn't mean anything to anyone else.
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One of the problems with the belts though, is its not standardized at all. Depending on the MA and the school they can be totally different. So I can say I have a fuschia belt and that doesn't mean anything to anyone else.
Very true. In most Chinese systems that have belts or ranks it takes 6 months to a year to get your first rank. That is if you go to class quite often. A Chinese martial artist that has been studying for two years usually is considered a high beginner, but I've seen some TKD schools that two years of study is enough to obtain a black belt.

With the HUGE disparity between the same colored belts of different systems, I just give everyone respect unless they prove to me they shouldn't get it.
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What about in Capoeira?
Every group has different cord colours, there are 5 rank names that are fairly common, though:

Monitor/Graduado - graduated student
Instrutor - first real teacher rank
Professor
Contra-mestre - master candidate
Mestre - master

The rank of Mestre usually can only be achieved after 20-25 years of training, so it is a really big thing. Even becoming an Instrutor takes 8-10 years in most groups, so rank progression is usually pretty slow.
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lol. . ive never met anybody since the 2 years im in china, who gives a crap about a belt... u can reconize how good a person is to watch how fluent he/she moves, and/or their energy level...
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