Dim Mak

[sannin227]

Yes, also acupuncture is usually to heal, and this would not be.

[JackG]

Originally Posted by Yukimura

. The difference is that instead of needles you use your bodies force to strike the pressure points along the testicales to cause great pain.

a little bit obvious

[Chapel]

The complicated sequence of techniques is something that seems to be mostly a myth. However, just like using different punches and kicks together in combination works better than individually, using different pressure points in combination is better than individually.

The 'Kill Bill vol. 2' technique keeps up the theme of the movie, which is tell a story using every possible genre. The name purposely stupid sounding as to parody that myth (Five-point-palm-exploding-heart-technique), while also taking a shot at the old master who knows something so deadly that he doesn't teach it to anyone.

[Jalek Moye]

as i always said dim mak masters are like evil acupunturists

[RAB]

Dim Mak is part myth and part science.

[sannin227]

Would you explain that more please...

[RAB]

Chinese martial art is has a lot of cultural folklore and mythology. To me, "culture" is what makes Chinese martial art...Chinese.

Novels like the Monkey King's Journey to the West and Outlaws of the Marsh were popular among Chinese people. The tales are about heros with super natural powers such as dim mak.

I personally believe that fictional stories are more interesting than science and science has many limitations. However, myth has no limitations and most people won't die for science, but many people have died for love, country and myths (Boxer's Rebellion).

So, I think myth is part of CMA and dim mak is no exception.

[sannin227]

You've never heard the prase Science is only limited by one's imagination? . which is the same limit as a myth, which has to be thought up by someone's imagination.

[47MartialMan]

I thought DIM MAK, aka Dian Mai, was Chinese etymology meaning "to point specifically"

[TenTigers]

Dim means to 'dot' or point-touch, such as in dim-sum-to touch the heart-little flavourful snacks of "comfort food."
Mak is the acu-points or vital points, nerve centers, etc. There are different levels of Dim-Mak, just as there are different levels of technique in Martial Arts. Gung-Fu is taught in layers. Sometimes, the same form is taught several different ways, in accordance withth e development of the student.
So, Dim-Mak can be striking areas such as eyes, throat, groin, solar-plexus, or it can be striking very specific points, during specific times, at a specific angle and depth of penetration, with power. It can combine strikes-(temporal summation)or use theories of Chinese Medicine to "set up" a strike. Usually, the higher levels were taught to those with a solid foundation in Chinese medicine, so much of the art has been lost.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

Dim means to 'dot' or point-touch, such as in dim-sum-to touch the heart-little flavourful snacks of "comfort food."
Mak is the acu-points or vital points, nerve centers, etc. There are different levels of Dim-Mak, just as there are different levels of technique in Martial Arts. Gung-Fu is taught in layers. Sometimes, the same form is taught several different ways, in accordance withth e development of the student.
So, Dim-Mak can be striking areas such as eyes, throat, groin, solar-plexus, or it can be striking very specific points, during specific times, at a specific angle and depth of penetration, with power. It can combine strikes-(temporal summation)or use theories of Chinese Medicine to "set up" a strike. Usually, the higher levels were taught to those with a solid foundation in Chinese medicine, so much of the art has been lost.

Mak is a variation of Mai, which means vein/internal

[TenTigers]

you are correct-mak, is a vessel, as in blood vessel, or meridian, and the points are along the vessels.Yuet is blood, and again, it is used to refer to the points. From what I have been told, both mak and yuet are referring to points. They are mostly interchangeable. It is a common term, rather than a technical term. It's funny, a word like Sung, can be translated into pages of descriptions, and other words are somewhat vague. Very difficult language to understand. My Sifu gets frustrated with my poor Chinese.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

you are correct-mak, is a vessel, as in blood vessel, or meridian, and the points are along the vessels.Yuet is blood, and again, it is used to refer to the points. From what I have been told, both mak and yuet are referring to points. They are mostly interchangeable. It is a common term, rather than a technical term. It's funny, a word like Sung, can be translated into pages of descriptions, and other words are somewhat vague. Very difficult language to understand. My Sifu gets frustrated with my poor Chinese.

Yuet, if youre speaking of Xue, then yes it would make sense that the blood/veins are vital for the body to maintain. Why else do these superman-like demos by slapping the carotid artery will render some people unconcious. However, stopping the blood circulation is just one part as there are respiratory and nerve pathways to shut down as well.

Sometimes a combo of a few will do it.

[TenTigers]

My Sifu echoed the words of Ed Brown, an Isshinryu Sensei from Pennsylvania, who was well known for his jackhammer like strikes, and iron palm,(one of the few people who could do selective breaking) "I don't want to be concerned with hitting a point the size of a dime, or the time of day, or whether the moon is full,etc when I'm fighting. I just want to be able to hit you ANYWHERE, and cause damage."
So, sure we aim to develop pinpoint accuracy, and we train to strike specific points-but the idea is to learn how to generate the power, and the speed. You need the delivery system, otherwise the rest is pointless.
HA! POINTLESS! Get it? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

My Sifu echoed the words of Ed Brown, an Isshinryu Sensei from Pennsylvania, who was well known for his jackhammer like strikes, and iron palm,(one of the few people who could do selective breaking) "I don't want to be concerned with hitting a point the size of a dime, or the time of day, or whether the moon is full,etc when I'm fighting. I just want to be able to hit you ANYWHERE, and cause damage."
So, sure we aim to develop pinpoint accuracy, and we train to strike specific points-but the idea is to learn how to generate the power, and the speed. You need the delivery system, otherwise the rest is pointless.
HA! POINTLESS! Get it? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

Power and speed may not be enough against certain adversaries