Dim Mak

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Power and speed may not be enough against certain adversaries

It is against slower and weaker ones. And, taking into consideration my speed and power, that includes just about anyone alive, and many who are dead.

Not that I had anything to do with those deaths, of course.

[JackG]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

It is against slower and weaker ones. And, taking into consideration my speed and power, that includes just about anyone alive, and many who are dead.

So faster than bruce lee , stronger than tyson ? Stronger than Mariusz Pudzianowski? no your not.

[john55]

Originally Posted by sannin227

Sorry, well I guess I just put in more info, and yes, it is extremely hard to master, plus some techniques are extremely dangerous and deadly. That's why masters are always hesitant to teach their students everything.

Can someone who knows the the death touch please show it to us...maybe in an mma fight? Or is it too deadly?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

It is against slower and weaker ones. And, taking into consideration my speed and power, that includes just about anyone alive, and many who are dead.

Not that I had anything to do with those deaths, of course.

::rolleyes :

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by JackG

So faster than bruce lee , stronger than tyson ? Stronger than Mariusz Pudzianowski? no your not.

Well, John Takeshi has been noted as a troll on other forums.

However, I just think he has his own opinion or acceptance of understanding.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by john55

Can someone who knows the the death touch please show it to us...maybe in an mma fight? Or is it too deadly?

That just it. Ever heard of the "Faces of Death" videos?

You would think someone that knew Dim Wit, err Dim mak would step forawrd with a mask and kill someone on a bootleg or Faces of Death vid. But s far, it hasnt been shown.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by john55

Can someone who knows the the death touch please show it to us...maybe in an mma fight? Or is it too deadly?

It's against the rules. No strikes to the throat, no knees to the head when the opponent's shooting. No stomping on a grounded opponent. Good ways to kill.

As for the rest, it's for in-school students. Perhaps if you learned discipline, you'd be schooled. Those who know don't say. Those who say don't know.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

That just it. Ever heard of the "Faces of Death" videos?

You would think someone that knew Dim Wit, err Dim mak would step forawrd with a mask and kill someone on a bootleg or Faces of Death vid. But s far, it hasnt been shown.

That's because DIm Mak requires character. So, if you have character and have learned Dim Mak, you wouldn't go around randomly killing, would you.

Tell me, does it hurt more to get pounded in the throat with a straight punch, or punched in the cheek with a hook? Dim Mak can be simpler than you think.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Well, John Takeshi has been noted as a troll on other forums.

However, I just think he has his own opinion or acceptance of understanding.

True, I've been called a troll. But then, I've called many other people trolls. Yourself, for instance.

It's all a matter of perspective. I agree with you.

[john55]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

It's against the rules. No strikes to the throat, no knees to the head when the opponent's shooting. No stomping on a grounded opponent. Good ways to kill.

So your saying that a death touch can only be performed by strikes to the throat, knees to the head when the opponents shooting, and stomping on a grounded opponent?

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by john55

So your saying that a death touch can only be performed by strikes to the throat, knees to the head when the opponents shooting, and stomping on a grounded opponent?

No, but those are the ones for beginners, and they're quite easy to do. Try them sometime when your opponent is on the ground. Give him a nice stomp to the groin when he pulls guard for upkicks, and while he's hurt, stomp on his head until his brain fragments start seeping into the mat. Aim for his temple. It's the weakest part of his skull.

If you want to learn more subtle techniques, talk to a Dim Mak specialist and learn some character along the way.

[John Takeshi]

Dim Mak isn't the art of "DEADLY POKING". Let's say you rock your opponent with a nice hook or jab to the jaw. He slumps, or stumbles, and instead of throwing wild punches at his head, many of which will miss, you take a wallop at his kidneys or his liver, which doubles him up, then you finger thrust up under the jaw and follow it up with a strike to hte temple.

Now, if you think Dim Mak is walking up to someone and tapping them on the shoulder with a Vulcan Neck Pinch, it shows how little you know. You, not the TMA community, are caught up in some "fantasy" version of TMA. IN other words, don't talk bad about arts you know nothing about, novice.

[TOBY]

Hello,

I am new to this forum. I am not new to Kung Fu, it is fun to joke around, humor is enjoyable, and, on forum we never know to whom we speak.

Dim Mak is exremely dangerous. It is dying art . It take years of study to understand it, and, to use it properly. As with many of these death blows, they have disappeared.

Toby

[john55]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

Dim Mak isn't the art of "DEADLY POKING". Let's say you rock your opponent with a nice hook or jab to the jaw. He slumps, or stumbles, and instead of throwing wild punches at his head, many of which will miss, you take a wallop at his kidneys or his liver, which doubles him up, then you finger thrust up under the jaw and follow it up with a strike to hte temple.

Now, if you think Dim Mak is walking up to someone and tapping them on the shoulder with a Vulcan Neck Pinch, it shows how little you know. You, not the TMA community, are caught up in some "fantasy" version of TMA. IN other words, don't talk bad about arts you know nothing about, novice.

Dim mak is not about a knee to the head or stomping on an opponents head. Please direct me to the source of your information, then I will believe you. If you dont have a source, I will assume its not true. And dont use the old 'my master taught me and its not online argument' Dim mak is based on pressure points, not random combination strikes. It is designed to knock someone out, incapacitate, or kill them with one strike. A knee to the head isnt going after a pressure point.

Go through the forums here, you will many arguments against the strikes you claim to be so effective and deadly. Have you ever tried kneeing someone in the head as they are going for a take down? Its near impossible. As we have discussed on multiple discussions here, you need to first sprawl. As for throat strikes, its a risky shot and a small target. Most parts of the throat can take a good solid shot. Not something most people would want to risk in a fight. As for stomping on someones head thats injured, i mean you could run them over with your car to or do all kinds of stuff when somone is laying on the ground but I think anyone in a SD situation one would run at that point and in MMA, the fight would be over. So why would someone do that again? And how is that dim mak?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

Dim Mak isn't the art of "DEADLY POKING". Let's say you rock your opponent with a nice hook or jab to the jaw. He slumps, or stumbles, and instead of throwing wild punches at his head, many of which will miss, you take a wallop at his kidneys or his liver, which doubles him up, then you finger thrust up under the jaw and follow it up with a strike to hte temple.

Now, if you think Dim Mak is walking up to someone and tapping them on the shoulder with a Vulcan Neck Pinch, it shows how little you know. You, not the TMA community, are caught up in some "fantasy" version of TMA. IN other words, don't talk bad about arts you know nothing about, novice.

Actually, it has been proven medically, that a temple strike isnt as deadly as it had been claimed.

And, one can suffer any of these strikes even by non-human objects.

Talk bad? Hmmmn, If look back to many posts/threads on this subject, many martial artists with a sense of realism cannot fully accept Dim Mak.