Dim Mak

[Ben]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

What about Cung Le, has....has...has.....Ben?

that doest make sense, are you asking me a question?

if your asking if Ive studied CMAs then yes I have.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

Perhaps when I visit a Chinese MA forum on an MA website and see a bunch of non-CMA martial artists bashing my art because they only read a 2 min discription on wiki or on some kook's website, I feel the need to defend them in the context of Chinese Martial Arts, because the arts have dignity.

Well, people are going to have conflict with each other on such a open forum. Because WE ARE NOT on a CMA forum, everyone has a right to disagree and hold their opinion.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

What about Cung Le, has....has...has.....Ben?

Actually, Cung Le is Vietnamese, not Chinese, so it would hardly be said that he is CMA

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Actually, Cung Le is Vietnamese, not Chinese, so it would hardly be said that he is CMA

But he's a former san shou champion I think thats the point.

[WC_Lun]

Cung Le is Vietnamese and has no ranking in any Chinese art. He was a champion in San Shou, which happens to be a Chinese sport.

[Sake Sipper]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

Cung Le is Vietnamese and has no ranking in any Chinese art. He was a champion in San Shou, which happens to be a Chinese sport.

...............come on now

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by Sake Sipper

...............come on now

......yes?

[SirokiFighter]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

Cung Le is Vietnamese and has no ranking in any Chinese art. He was a champion in San Shou, which happens to be a Chinese sport.

i am sensing a bit of dislike for cung le?

[Sake Sipper]

I'm sensing a dislike for San Shou from him.

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by SirokiFighter

i am sensing a bit of dislike for cung le?

No, actually I like Cung Le quite a lot. I think his timing is amazing. I also like and appreciate San Shou. Most of the guys who do this sport are pretty damn good and tough as nails. What I don't like is people thinking San Shou IS CMA. While it can be confusing, San Shou is a sport and its participants don't necesarily use CMA...like Cung Le. Chinese martial arts are something different from San Shou and not a sport...well most CMA isn't a sport. Too many people think San Shou and Chinese martial arts are the same and interchangable. They aren't.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

No, actually I like Cung Le quite a lot. I think his timing is amazing. I also like and appreciate San Shou. Most of the guys who do this sport are pretty damn good and tough as nails. What I don't like is people thinking San Shou IS CMA. While it can be confusing, San Shou is a sport and its participants don't necesarily use CMA...like Cung Le. Chinese martial arts are something different from San Shou and not a sport...well most CMA isn't a sport. Too many people think San Shou and Chinese martial arts are the same and interchangable. They aren't.

This is all incorrect. Cung Le is Vietnamese, but he was not raised in Vietnam. He was raised in America, competed in American kickboxing, but did so with a San Shou background. San Shou is kind of like Chinese MMA. It's a mixture of Shuai Chao throwing skills, CMA takedowns and sweeps, and a variety of kicks from all of the Chinese martial arts. IT selected the best the Chinese world had to offer, and then trained them for competition.

It is a Chinese martial art. But it isn't, per say, a Traditional Chinese Martial ARt. But if you train traditional martial arts, he's an example of how to make those techniques work inside of a ring. He beat some great martial artists from a professional circuit that wrties kung fu off as a charlatan's art.

But clearly they were wrong.

As a demonstration of Dim Mak in action, watch how he beat Tony Frykklund. He didn't knock him out, take him down for submission, or anything like that. A stiff shot (perhaps only general in his mind--as he's not into Dim Mak and only stumbled onto the strike) to the liver's key pressure point ended the fight. How did he hit that point? With a CMA roundhouse or side-sweep, not a Muay Thai Roundhouse.

Frykklund threw up and wound up being carted off by doctors.

Dim Mak=victory in all fields of Martial arts, even MMA.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

As a demonstration of Dim Mak in action, watch how he beat Tony Frykklund. He didn't knock him out, take him down for submission, or anything like that. A stiff shot (perhaps only general in his mind--as he's not into Dim Mak and only stumbled onto the strike) to the liver's key pressure point ended the fight. How did he hit that point? With a CMA roundhouse or side-sweep, not a Muay Thai Roundhouse.

Frykklund threw up and wound up being carted off by doctors.

Dim Mak=victory in all fields of Martial arts, even MMA.

A "CMA roundhouse"

A "stiff shot"....

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

A "CMA roundhouse"

A "stiff shot"....

LOL I actually agree with you.

Bas Rutten has been talking about the liver shot for years.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

LOL I actually agree with you.

Bas Rutten has been talking about the liver shot for years.

Dim Mak=victory in all fields of Martial arts, even MMA.

So not only is MMA eclectic, it also uses Dim Mak.......

[LeiWuLong]

Oh my goodness i just figured out dim mak is cantonese for chin na! heeheehee im so silly, i practice chin na, though i think using it in a friendly fight is very bad etiquite , it hurts like HELL believe me.....not nice...lets no go disrupting anyones chi......