Chin Na

[Majis0422]

Originally Posted by kuroitaka

actually i belive that the strike is faster than involving in ground fighting so if u wanted to involve u may strike first then complete it in ground fighting . cause i believe that every opponent i meet is the best fighter in the world so i don't underestimate my oppenents and if i tried to involve with him and he was a god striker i'll find strikes to my face so i wouldn't take him in my fighting stance so i belive to open his defences with my strike .

I dont understand some of your english there. When your saying the word involve... what are you actually trying to say? And when did we start talking about ground fighting? (Your MA is focuses highly on ground fighting Im assuming because you tend to always end your things with something about ground fighting)

[kuroitaka]

Originally Posted by Majis0422

I dont understand some of your english there. When your saying the word involve... what are you actually trying to say? And when did we start talking about ground fighting? (Your MA is focuses highly on ground fighting Im assuming because you tend to always end your things with something about ground fighting)

will i mean by involving is engaging with him in close distance to use ground fightting . actualluy my martial art focus in equal with Striking and grappling . but i'm better in grabling and not a bad striker actually in my dojo (( my team mates call " the most annoying thing on ground " cause i'm really tough down there and d i may finish the fight in just 5 seconds once we came down " using chin na , and jiu jitsu techniques , aikido techniques and any other grabling techniques and it is hard to have a lock with me to finish me cause as i mentioned i'm really tough down there . but i'm good in striking too .

[shen long]

yer...mmm... well there ant nothing like blowing your own trumpet is there... I think we are being to lose sight of the issue here.. it was about the usage of chi na now we seem to be moving to striking and ground fighting?????

there are a few fact that can not be ignored.
1. you must break down your opponent
2. no throw or lock will work straigh from cold
3. the idea of chi na is to help strike vitle points of the body
while immoblizing your apponent for a split second

i dont care how good you can stirke or use ground work any body can win on any giving day thats life.

sorry for the out bust but i hate Martial artsist with egos or the "BIG i AM" at this attatuide.

it ant about how many styles you know it's understanding the body machanics behind the idea and thats all the martial arts is "AN IDEA" nothing more.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by shen long

sorry for the out bust but i hate Martial artsist with egos or the "BIG i AM" at this attatuide

More means better....

More styles to claim (8-12)

More things newly created (of old-spinning kicks are now tornado kicks.)

More rank levels-(12th Dan)

[TenTigers]

Man, some of you read too little, or read too much. Either way, Chin-Na is not a style of Martial Art, it is a catagorizing of technique within an art, which breaks down further into Fun-gun, chaw-guat,bai-hei,dim-yuet,and dim-mak,etc. It contains striking within its methods, and the throwing, grappling, joint manipulation etc is a part of most traditional Martial Arts.
As far as using Chin-Na against a boxer? Of course you can. clinching is part of chin-na. From the clinch, you can then go into your locks-attacking the neck,arms, legs, waist,etc.
I dunno, is it age? But, for the record, I'm fifty, and hell yeah, I'm a grouchy old fart like 47. But I actually think it is not the chronological age, but the age in Martial Arts, meaninig the experience that causes us to get short with some of the posters here, who are not only young in years, but young in experience. Don't get offended. Some of us old farts actually have some wisdom.
Of course, by that time, alzhiemer's has set in, so we're just dottering old fools.
So STFU and change my diaper, dammnit!

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

Man, some of you read too little, or read too much. Either way, Chin-Na is not a style of Martial Art, it is a catagorizing of technique within an art, which breaks down further into Fun-gun, chaw-guat,bai-hei,dim-yuet,and dim-mak,etc. It contains striking within its methods, and the throwing, grappling, joint manipulation etc is a part of most traditional Martial Arts.
As far as using Chin-Na against a boxer? Of course you can. clinching is part of chin-na. From the clinch, you can then go into your locks-attacking the neck,arms, legs, waist,etc.
I dunno, is it age? But, for the record, I'm fifty, and hell yeah, I'm a grouchy old fart like 47. But I actually think it is not the chronological age, but the age in Martial Arts, meaninig the experience that causes us to get short with some of the posters here, who are not only young in years, but young in experience. Don't get offended. Some of us old farts actually have some wisdom.
Of course, by that time, alzhiemer's has set in, so we're just dottering old fools.
So STFU and change my diaper, dammnit!

It is also age old man, your'e in denial.

However, I have always maintain that Chin na, is within its own. Simply a description of methods along the same lines.

[JadeDragon]

My favorite chin na technique is from a wrist grab and it's calle "old man goes fishing". you end up with the guy flung over your shoulder by his arm like your carrying a big fish.

[TenTigers]

I think I've seen that term and technique in Yang Jwing Ming's book. We do the same thing, but we call it,'Breakin the guy's fukin arm."

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by TenTigers

1.) I think I've seen that term and technique in Yang Jwing Ming's book. We do the same thing, but we call it,

2.) 'Breakin the guy's fukin arm."

1.) Indeed....same old people using the same old reference......


2.) I like it, but please restrain from profanity

[LeiWuLong]

What about the 108 locks of Eagle Claw?

Well at the moment im learning shaolin eagle claw, its locks are great ad it actually has parts of Chin Na built into it, good fun.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

What about the 108 locks of Eagle Claw?

Well at the moment im learning shaolin eagle claw, its locks are great ad it actually has parts of Chin Na built into it, good fun.

How do you know its Shaolin Eagle Claw?

[JadeDragon]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

How do you know its Shaolin Eagle Claw?

I'm fairly new to this forum but it appears to me that every post that you (47MartialMan)post is a negative comment. You seem to doubt and question everybody. If someone says they are learning Shaolin Egle Claw why would they lie about it? What would they gain by lying about what style they are learning. Even if they lie, as long as they contribute something that is valuable then who cares.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by JadeDragon

I'm fairly new to this forum but it appears to me that every post that you (47MartialMan)post is a negative comment. You seem to doubt and question everybody. If someone says they are learning Shaolin Egle Claw why would they lie about it? What would they gain by lying about what style they are learning. Even if they lie, as long as they contribute something that is valuable then who cares.

There is too much things being taken for granted as names are displayed for merit.

Doubt and question is what one should do. I have been a martial artist, and have researched martial arts far too long than to take some words of face value.

Though I am not calling them a liar, I am questioning the authenticity and actual hierarchy of such.

Furthermore, how can a liar contribute anything but deceit?

[Sake Sipper]

Originally Posted by JadeDragon

I'm fairly new to this forum but it appears to me that every post that you (47MartialMan)post is a negative comment. You seem to doubt and question everybody.

That was a very negative comment.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Sake Sipper

That was a very negative comment.

People dont usually take well to crtiticism.


But, hey, they have to realize I am a Old Buzzard.