Chin Na

[LeiWuLong]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

People dont usually take well to crtiticism.


But, hey, they have to realize I am a Old Buzzard.

lol i can handle u grumpy! Its SHAOLIN because the monk said it is so there! *pulls an idiotic face and runs around wildly* thatll fix ya lol, ps: hows the classes going

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

lol i can handle u grumpy! Its SHAOLIN because the monk said it is so there! *pulls an idiotic face and runs around wildly* thatll fix ya lol, ps: hows the classes going

I am pleased that you can handle it/me. I am pleased that you have a discipline of great tolerance. I am also pleased, as I think, that you know, what I post, is not intened to be directed personally, though some of it can "strike a nerve". (Get under the skin, stimulate a response, or irritate)

And though I am at odds with the term/name (as with many terms), as for a Sholin Monk nowadays, as with any martial artist, they still share the same aspirations and develop skills. I won't knock someone's skills (or art), if they are developed properly and aren't hyped.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Furthermore, how can a liar contribute anything but deceit?

Perhaps you would care to explain?

I'm not saying you're a liar or that you only contribute deceit; I'm just saying, you know more about liars and deceit than some of us laypersons.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

Perhaps you would care to explain?

I'm not saying you're a liar or that you only contribute deceit; I'm just saying, you know more about liars and deceit than some of us laypersons.

Layperson? Would this mean that those are naive and gullable?



Lets say, I had my share of meetng charlatans and I have become somewhat jaded.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Layperson? Would this mean that those are naive and gullable?



Lets say, I had my share of meetng charlatans and I have become somewhat jaded.

Perhaps you care to explain? In Japan, when someone says that they're jaded, it means that they've decided to live an alternative lifestyle (I mean homosexuality). I just think you might want to clear that up, so nobody gets the wrong idea about you. I think what you mean is...you've become suspicious, or something? I can't tell.

Be well.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

Perhaps you care to explain? In Japan, when someone says that they're jaded, it means that they've decided to live an alternative lifestyle (I mean homosexuality). I just think you might want to clear that up, so nobody gets the wrong idea about you. I think what you mean is...you've become suspicious, or something? I can't tell.

Be well.

Well, if you need to know what is the ENGLISH defintion of jaded is, look in a dictionary;

Nevermind, since you cant understand;

jad.ed; adj. 1. dulled or satiated by overindulgence 2. worn out or wearied, as by overwork or overuse. 3. dissipated: a jaded reprobate.

dissipated; intemperate; dissolute.

intemerate; not temperate; unrestrained;

dissolute; indifferent

jaded
Synonyms: dulled, exhausted, indifferent, satiated, spent, tired, wearied, worn, worn-out

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Well, if you need to know what is the ENGLISH defintion of jaded is, look in a dictionary;

Nevermind, since you cant understand;

jad.ed; adj. 1. dulled or satiated by overindulgence 2. worn out or wearied, as by overwork or overuse. 3. dissipated: a jaded reprobate.

dissipated; intemperate; dissolute.

intemerate; not temperate; unrestrained;

dissolute; indifferent

jaded
Synonyms: dulled, exhausted, indifferent, satiated, spent, tired, wearied, worn, worn-out

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I didn't want to get the wrong idea about you.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I didn't want to get the wrong idea about you.

Well you had. Because since we are using English wording, and I am in the US, I dont care what the Japanense understanding/definiton of jaded is.

Though, I think you may not be correct on the Japanese version as well.

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Well you had. Because since we are using English wording, and I am in the US, I dont care what the Japanense understanding/definiton of jaded is.

Though, I think you may not be correct on the Japanese version as well.

I'm Japanese. But thanks for telling me I don't know my language or its colloquialisms.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

I'm Japanese. But thanks for telling me I don't know my language or its colloquialisms.

Well, "jaded", maybe a slang term from where you may stand, but I dare seek it further at the sake of embarassment.

[LeiWuLong]

Heehee martialman you sure know how to get at folks, but not me, im wearing my sturdy shoes and am thereby utterly and completely invincible...(unless of course the individual i verse is better than me...heehee)

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by LeiWuLong

Heehee martialman you sure know how to get at folks, but not me, im wearing my sturdy shoes and am thereby utterly and completely invincible...(unless of course the individual i verse is better than me...heehee)

"Sturdy shoes".......

[LeiWuLong]

Yep they are immovable and sturdy mwohahahaha, how u going anyway?

[Them's Fighting Words]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

People dont usually take well to crtiticism.


But, hey, they have to realize I am a Old Buzzard.

It's not so much the criticism as the implied insult. I too am quite cynical when it comes to many martial arts claims but I forgo my cynicism until a claim has been proven false (as in innocent before proven guilty).
Anyway, back to the original thread. How is Chin Na different from grappling styles found in MMA. This is not an MMA vs TMA thing, but I have seen MMA fights where they could have easily broken or dislocated limbs but due to MMA ettiquette, they slowed the application of force to gain a submission.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Them's Fighting Words

It's not so much the criticism as the implied insult. I too am quite cynical when it comes to many martial arts claims but I forgo my cynicism until a claim has been proven false (as in innocent before proven guilty).
Anyway, back to the original thread. How is Chin Na different from grappling styles found in MMA. This is not an MMA vs TMA thing, but I have seen MMA fights where they could have easily broken or dislocated limbs but due to MMA ettiquette, they slowed the application of force to gain a submission.

I have been around the block for too many decades and examined too many things to wait until something is proven false.

After time, one matures into a view of not taking anything for face value.

Proven has to be that from inquisition and not from ingenuous complacence.