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he would be very fake if he called himself "sifu" since he is teaching japanese MA. my sensei doesn't make claims like being a shaolin monk etc i seen and felt his throws and locks there excellent. I have Grappled with him once at got my arse handed to me.
This is because he relies on his ability, skill, experience, and humility of a teacher - than to rely on namesake.....
To have much namesake is the road to shame fake.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
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well the shaolin monk is only of 21 years of age so all those commetns about old are not really worth my time
I can tell he was real because he taught us in way which only decent martial artists teach.. its hard to explain.. when he demonstrated techniques he did them like a master, when he demonstrated forms he did them with unmatched skill, his stances were crazily good and then of course the show off somersualt.
at the end of the day he taught me techniques that i have used to defend myself and they worked.. he increased my physical fitness through making me train harder and he came from a shaolin temple in china
you may all have problems or difficulties with understanding shaolin monks but things change with time... a shaolin monk now does not have to be what a shaolin monk was many years ago.
samurai, shogan, ninjas, military generals.... all these warriors have kept thier title and prowess (although unsure of wheather samurai/shogun still exist) and i wouldnt question thier name or linage
whats everyones problem with shaolin monks
your defining shaolin monk and then seeing if the people fit with that image
why not take the image of the monks and define them as shaolin. afterall nothing stays the same
the thing is alot of shaolin monks now are frauds and their arent that many true ones left that at least liv/lived recently in the temple. Also shaolin is big money and alot of people make claims to it for that reason, so its natural for us to question your shifu's lineage(not taking away from his skill and understanding of the art though)
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Leisure may not be an option for this indefatigable human instrument of martial arts. It is the Tao, sort to speak passably, that he his set on such credenda, to which he may not abdicate. It is the WAY, the Do, of what certitude he has.
however whatever that monk was teaching us worked.. so even if its 'fake' does that not still make it an art worth learning.. im sure that martial arts develope over time and the karate learnt by people now is not neccesarily the karate learnt by those hundreds of years ago!!!
i never said thats its not worth studying just saying that many monks aren authentic.
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Leisure may not be an option for this indefatigable human instrument of martial arts. It is the Tao, sort to speak passably, that he his set on such credenda, to which he may not abdicate. It is the WAY, the Do, of what certitude he has.
It seems Xingyiquan has disappeared from this string. Though Xingyiquan is said to have origins related to Shaolin.
Studying Taijiquan, I naturally crossed paths with Xingyiquan and Baguazhang. I really like Xingyiquan. It lends itself to heavy punches among other things. Great fun on a heavy bag or moving a shopping cart full of bricks.
It seems Xingyiquan has disappeared from this string. Though Xingyiquan is said to have origins related to Shaolin.
Studying Taijiquan, I naturally crossed paths with Xingyiquan and Baguazhang. I really like Xingyiquan. It lends itself to heavy punches among other things. Great fun on a heavy bag or moving a shopping cart full of bricks.
A lot of arts lay claim to orgins of Shaolin. Afterall, it became a famous place right after those people allowed rebels, generals, fighters, sanctuary.
Hmmnn, why no one paid attention to it its first few centuries.........
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
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1-Ben, you have several months spread out over various arts, making you less than a beginner. Anyone with two years of experience in a decent school can teach you stuff that would work.
2-There haven't been real Martial Monks in Shaolin in decades. There have however, been contemporary wu-shu performers who shave their heads,donned robes and are now"Monks." They are very good, but they only know contemporary routines and some sanda kickboxing. I had students who trained under a well-known 'Shaolin Monk' in NY come to me, because they wanted to learn how to fight. The "Monk's" knowledge of actual application was very limited, to say the least.
3-there is no internal and external. Internal was a phrase that Sun Lu=Tang used in an article to describe Hsing-Yi, Ba-Kua, and Tai-Chi-Ch'uan-nie jia-internal schools. Now it is a catch-phrase used by "internal arts" snobs, who are holier than thou. ALL traditional Martial Art is internal. If you say otherwise, you simply don't understand Martial Arts. Period.
4-Hsing-Yi did not come from Shaolin, and NO, it did not come from Wudang either, niether did Ba-Kua or Tai-Chi-Ch'uan.
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