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Old 07-14-2007, 05:29 PM   #16 (permalink)

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However, if we presume for a moment that it does work, I think it is eminently irresponsible of a man to mass-publish a book that allows anyone to learn to have a weapon without having the ethical, moral, or spiritual training/judgement regarding its use.

In traditional training, a sensei/sifu/whatever would judge whether or not an artist was of solid enough character to be allowed to learn the most destructive techniques of a style. This was not foolproof, but is better than "if you can afford the $75 (or whatever), you must be a good enough chap to learn this."
I agree with this 100%. A weapon in the wrong hands is a horrible thing.
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Old 07-14-2007, 05:44 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Dan, if it makes you feel any better, I have seen this first hand. I can't get into too much detail, but I have seen Dim Mak used on a few occasions. An x-friend of mine's uncle was a martial artist, had a falling out with a local guy in town, and he hit the guy in the chest in a lethal strike. He knocked the guy back but the guy just brushed it off an left. About 6 days later the guy fell into a coma. The doctor didn't know what was happening except for he said that the guy's body was dying, like the organs were starting to break down one by one, but there was no reason why. The guy died a few days later. There are also some medical techniques that utilize a variation of this method, you just have to find them. Sorry I can't get into more detail, but I believe you.
Thank you, i do feel much better. It's ok. I believe it too.
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Old 07-14-2007, 06:08 PM   #18 (permalink)

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not many people can really say whether this style works or not, cause there are only 2 people in the world that have learned it properly, there will always be just 2 people that know the true secrets of how it works. the style is passed on from grand master to 1 student. There will always be a master and there will always be one student (all the Dim Mak secrets are held in a secret scroll which is passed down from generation to generation from master to student). I cant remember the persons name of the last two people to hold it but last i heard they were in america.
anyone else that practices Dim Mak, will only reach a certain level.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:09 PM   #19 (permalink)

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not many people can really say whether this style works or not, cause there are only 2 people in the world that have learned it properly, there will always be just 2 people that know the true secrets of how it works. the style is passed on from grand master to 1 student. There will always be a master and there will always be one student (all the Dim Mak secrets are held in a secret scroll which is passed down from generation to generation from master to student). I cant remember the persons name of the last two people to hold it but last i heard they were in america.
anyone else that practices Dim Mak, will only reach a certain level.
So you're essentially telling me that ever Dim Mak artist has fully completed the cycle of student and teacher and that cycle was never interrupted by something like the master getting killed by some unforeseeable effect like a car accident or a jealous student? If the most potent weapon in martial arts was written down on a scroll you best bet that someone would have stolen that scroll or it would be in a museum by now. Also you would think that this Dim Mak Grandmaster would have been hunted down by a government somewhere and be forced to train military personnel to the fullest extent.

Its romantic and it makes for good story telling, but it simply isn't true.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:51 AM   #20 (permalink)

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Is that move out of Kill Bill real ? where she strikes him and he can only move 5 steps before he dies ?
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not many people can really say whether this style works or not, cause there are only 2 people in the world that have learned it properly, there will always be just 2 people that know the true secrets of how it works. the style is passed on from grand master to 1 student. There will always be a master and there will always be one student (all the Dim Mak secrets are held in a secret scroll which is passed down from generation to generation from master to student). I cant remember the persons name of the last two people to hold it but last i heard they were in america.
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Is that move out of Kill Bill real ? where she strikes him and he can only move 5 steps before he dies ?
It looks like I am doomed to fail in my chosen art as I can only reach a certain level. Oh well.

I think that move might be a bit of crap, but, I have pulled someones eye out before and made it look and them so they could see themselves before they died. I also pulled a blokes heart out of his chest and held it in my hand while it was still beating.....then ate it.
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It looks like I am doomed to fail in my chosen art as I can only reach a certain level. Oh well.

I think that move might be a bit of crap, but, I have pulled someones eye out before and made it look and them so they could see themselves before they died. I also pulled a blokes heart out of his chest and held it in my hand while it was still beating.....then ate it.
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not many people can really say whether this style works or not, cause there are only 2 people in the world that have learned it properly, there will always be just 2 people that know the true secrets of how it works. the style is passed on from grand master to 1 student. There will always be a master and there will always be one student (all the Dim Mak secrets are held in a secret scroll which is passed down from generation to generation from master to student). I cant remember the persons name of the last two people to hold it but last i heard they were in america.
anyone else that practices Dim Mak, will only reach a certain level.
Out of interest, what are the names of these two individuals, their lineage and style please.
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Is that move out of Kill Bill real ? where she strikes him and he can only move 5 steps before he dies ?
QT himself says he made it up to pay homage to martial arts films where they use crazy pressure point moves. The Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique doesn't exist in the way it was presented.
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still cool though i will learn to do it with a side kick
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This sounds out of place but just hear me out...
You get allergies so you try a few medications. You try allegra, but it doesnt work. You then try claritin, but it doesnt work. You then try tylenon cold and sinus, but it doesnt work. As a last resort you try some ancient healing homemade medication you read about on the internet and the next day you wake up and the allergies are gone! So did the ancient medicine heal you? Or was it that you spent a month and a half trying new medicines and now the allergy season is gone? It just happened to be that you allergies were about over by the time you tried the ancient medicine crap.

7 years is a long time. Anything can happen between that time. And if it is 7 years is it 7 years to the day you touched the guy? One time I punched my friend in the arm. A few years later he got cancer and died. Is that because I punched him in the arm? Nope.
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I'm not as skeptical as RiveraRa, I do believe in the older styles of medicine (I prefer, as with nearly everything else, a balance between modern and ancient medicine).
I'm with him, however, in my disbelief of the "7 year death touch strike." "Several days death touch strike" I could understand (though I would be wary of anyone who claimed to know this. I'm fickle like that ), because you could do something that would starve the kidneys or liver of blood, causing death over a period of time.
To say you can set up a blood vessel to break down over 7 years, though, is a bit beyond my belief (and I believe in a lot). The body can heal itself, and a slow disintegration like that would be easy for the body to handle.
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This sounds out of place but just hear me out...
You get allergies so you try a few medications. You try allegra, but it doesnt work. You then try claritin, but it doesnt work. You then try tylenon cold and sinus, but it doesnt work. As a last resort you try some ancient healing homemade medication you read about on the internet and the next day you wake up and the allergies are gone! So did the ancient medicine heal you? Or was it that you spent a month and a half trying new medicines and now the allergy season is gone? It just happened to be that you allergies were about over by the time you tried the ancient medicine crap.

7 years is a long time. Anything can happen between that time. And if it is 7 years is it 7 years to the day you touched the guy? One time I punched my friend in the arm. A few years later he got cancer and died. Is that because I punched him in the arm? Nope.
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I'm not as skeptical as RiveraRa, I do believe in the older styles of medicine (I prefer, as with nearly everything else, a balance between modern and ancient medicine).
I'm with him, however, in my disbelief of the "7 year death touch strike." "Several days death touch strike" I could understand (though I would be wary of anyone who claimed to know this. I'm fickle like that ), because you could do something that would starve the kidneys or liver of blood, causing death over a period of time.
To say you can set up a blood vessel to break down over 7 years, though, is a bit beyond my belief (and I believe in a lot). The body can heal itself, and a slow disintegration like that would be easy for the body to handle.
I must admit, they are both good points when you put it like that. It is not exactly 7 years, it is said that it can take up to 7years later which I guess is that it happened to somebody. From what I have read these claims are backed up by western medicine, but yes, how do they know that's what caused it after seven years unless they were with them 24hrs a day for that period. I guess we'll never really know but I tell you one thing, I'm not signing up for the tests to find out.

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