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Old 09-13-2007, 09:11 PM   #16 (permalink)

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well to me its kinda appearnt set up. and when i was showed this when somone was talking about differnt kicks and thats what i was told so i belive it to be so
Oh thats cool man. Yea we all have our opinions so no worries. I wish there was something on it so we would know for sure.
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Lies, all lies... Monks are the most destructive people I've ever heard of... They should all be slain!!... But on a serious note, I agree he probably isnt a "monk" in the fashion one would expect. However Shaolin Monks now a days do do demonstrations for money. So who says this isnt just a demonstration of what they've been practicing?
Lies, all lies

You hit it on the "money". Its all about money. Anyone doing a few fancy moves, shaving their heads, wearing orange robes, and are Chinese or look Asian, can be a Shaolin Monk.

True, authentic, Shaolin Monks dont exist. These are costume wearers nowadays

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i've seen preformers get close to hurting each other all the time its the only way to make it good. and show it with a person there, like good wushu preformers do all the time
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Oh thats cool man. Yea we all have our opinions so no worries. I wish there was something on it so we would know for sure.
There is a interesting analogy of opinions.....
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:55 PM   #18 (permalink)

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There is a interesting analogu of opinions.....
Your telling me
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Chapel's list of sadly missed opportunities in this fight and other oddities:

1. On the second slow down (1:30 left) the monk's blocks are nothing more than a series of slaps downward that actually do not correspond to the attacks being thrown at him. Its in line with the philosophy that if you fire enough bullets you will eventually hit something.

2. At the end of the second slow down (1:24 left) you see that the monk actually ducks much after the kick has already missed him. One more kick on the part of the TKDist was all that was needed to land a good solid hit.

3. During the slow down of the monk's combo (:50 left) the kicks are actually too far away to hit the TKDist at all, only the first one was dodged, the 540 kick looked like it was about a foot away.

4. Right after the 540 kick the monk is off balance (:50 left) and fails to continue the combination with something like a back kick. The TKDist fails to take advantage of this situation.

5. Right after the monk regains balance from the 540 kick (:40 left) the TKDist winds up behind the monk, but fails to use this to his advantage.

6. During the second to last slow down (:15 left) the monk uses a jumping block. If you have to jump to block something you are better off just avoiding it. The TKD missed the opportunity to follow up with a quick skip side kick. A MMA fighter would probably have just rushed him and shot the legs.

7. Right after the jump block the TKDist does a jumping spinning back kick that throws him off balance and misses by a foot. The monk failed to take the opportunity to strike with a quick kick/punch and land a solid strike.

8. On the final few seconds of film the TKDist moves back well before the back kick comes, but the monk commits anyway and ends up with his back to the TKDist once again. Once again, the TKDist fails to utilize this opportunity.

This is either a show, a staged fight or they are using a bizarre set of rules that I don't quite understand (like seeing who can use the most advanced combos). Competitions just aren't that clean, and people simply don't give up every opportunity to score. I would have more respect for this video if either one of them managed to take advantage of the situation even once.
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This is either a show, a staged fight or they are using a bizarre set of rules that I don't quite understand (like seeing who can use the most advanced combos). Competitions just aren't that clean, and people simply don't give up every opportunity to score. I would have more respect for this video if either one of them managed to take advantage of the situation even once.

This vid is nothing new as i saw it before.

It looks like a show of two unskilled people. It is like a exhibition put together specifically for a audience.

It kinda puts a bad image on both.
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This is either a show, a staged fight or they are using a bizarre set of rules that I don't quite understand (like seeing who can use the most advanced combos).
Ya, i think so also, it was probably staged, or it seems like the rules were more or less of a "I attack, and you defend" type thing. doesn't it? it seems like that's what they did during the fight. TKD guy attacks, shaolin guy blocks, TKD guy attacks, shaolin guy blocks. Shaolin guy attack... etc...
might be the combo thing also.
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I dont think it was a actual Shaolin Guy. Just a WuShu stylist who thinks, bekieves, or claims to be so. So much for anything labeled "Shaolin"
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I dont think it was a actual Shaolin Guy. Just a WuShu stylist who thinks, bekieves, or claims to be so. So much for anything labeled "Shaolin"
Yeah, I used the term monk for simplicity. However, show or not, Shaolin or shyster, you have to admit that this guy has at least some acrobatic skill.
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believe me i see this all the time whenever i type in TKD vs . according to most members of youtube it was choreographed
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Yeah, I used the term monk for simplicity. However, show or not, Shaolin or shyster, you have to admit that this guy has at least some acrobatic skill.
Are acrobatics martial arts?

If so, then Li Xiaopeng is a master
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If so, then Li Xiaopeng is a master
Not exactly... Acrobatics is a very general or broad term just like the word sports. So basically, you're saying just because Li xiaopeng is a acrobat, it means he's a martial artist/stylist?
That would be like taking master of, idk..., cheerleading and calling her/him a master at football. lolz

Martial arts can be classified under acrobats or sports, but acrobatics can't be classified under martial arts. just like there are fighting games, but not all games involve fighitng.
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Are acrobatics martial arts?

If so, then Li Xiaopeng is a master
Not at all, however, I'll recognize any skill a person has, even if it isn't martial arts. Now... similar skills could be applied to martial arts... but that is different.
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