Sanda/ Sanshou

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD

Looking at San Shou/Sanda I don't see a lot of Chuan Fa (fist art, by the way) in it. It's mostly kick boxing techniques.

Lun you forgot Fa-jing and you're a wing chun guy!!!!????? That will be one hour in Yi Chi Kim Yung Ma please!

The San Shou now days is mostly just kickboxing techniques. The only chuan fa is are the throws.

An hour?! Not that I can't do it, but sheesh, the boredom! LOL

I am really bad with names and now I'm on a med that one of the side effects can be forgetfullness Do you know how mad a wife can get when you forget her mother's name, even for a moment? It makes for a great excuse for why I didn't do the dishes though

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

I am really bad with names and now I'm on a med that one of the side effects can be forgetfullness Do you know how mad a wife can get when you forget her mother's name, even for a moment? It makes for a great excuse for why I didn't do the dishes though

Did you forget her name on "Mother's Day" as well?

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

The San Shou now days is mostly just kickboxing techniques. The only chuan fa is are the throws.

An hour?! Not that I can't do it, but sheesh, the boredom! LOL

I am really bad with names and now I'm on a med that one of the side effects can be forgetfullness Do you know how mad a wife can get when you forget her mother's name, even for a moment? It makes for a great excuse for why I didn't do the dishes though

Yeah dude I brain farted on my girlfriends middle name once. Not good

[John Takeshi]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

The San Shou now days is mostly just kickboxing techniques. The only chuan fa is are the throws.

An hour?! Not that I can't do it, but sheesh, the boredom! LOL

I am really bad with names and now I'm on a med that one of the side effects can be forgetfullness Do you know how mad a wife can get when you forget her mother's name, even for a moment? It makes for a great excuse for why I didn't do the dishes though

San shou isn't kickboxing. You can wrestle for take downs,throws, and employ every sweep in your arsenal. Muay Thai won't let you do that; neither will Euro/American kickboxing. The only thing I don't like about san shou is that you can't use wrist locks because of the gloves, so that takes out at least half of my best techniques.

Also, it isn't realistic, because you can't bite, break someone's wrist, sock them in the groin, or rip their ear off when they go for a throw.

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

San shou isn't kickboxing. You can wrestle for take downs,throws, and employ every sweep in your arsenal. Muay Thai won't let you do that; neither will Euro/American kickboxing. The only thing I don't like about san shou is that you can't use wrist locks because of the gloves, so that takes out at least half of my best techniques.

Also, it isn't realistic, because you can't bite, break someone's wrist, sock them in the groin, or rip their ear off when they go for a throw.

If you are in a clinch, the ref will break you, so no wrestling in that manner. There are sweeps and throws, hence my comment about that being where you'll see the chuan fa. San Shou is a sport with rules. No one claimed it was realistic street fighting.

[GoddeBPM]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

San shou isn't kickboxing. You can wrestle for take downs,throws, and employ every sweep in your arsenal. Muay Thai won't let you do that; neither will Euro/American kickboxing. The only thing I don't like about san shou is that you can't use wrist locks because of the gloves, so that takes out at least half of my best techniques.

Also, it isn't realistic, because you can't bite, break someone's wrist, sock them in the groin, or rip their ear off when they go for a throw.

Yeah but dude, you're not allowed to do any of those things in other martial arts competition-like-sport-type-thing. I mean it's simulation combat not actual fight to the death combat. It's only meant to be realistic to some extent.

[SirokiFighter]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

San shou isn't kickboxing. You can wrestle for take downs,throws, and employ every sweep in your arsenal. Muay Thai won't let you do that; neither will Euro/American kickboxing. The only thing I don't like about san shou is that you can't use wrist locks because of the gloves, so that takes out at least half of my best techniques.

Also, it isn't realistic, because you can't bite, break someone's wrist, sock them in the groin, or rip their ear off when they go for a throw.

groin strikes, and biting wont solve all your problems. this has been said many times on this forum. rip their ear off? are you kidding me?

[GoddeBPM]

Originally Posted by SirokiFighter

groin strikes, and biting wont solve all your problems. this has been said many times on this forum. rip their ear off? are you kidding me?

Unless you're into disturbed forms of entertainment, that would be a massive problem.

[SirokiFighter]

Originally Posted by GoddeBPM

Unless you're into disturbed forms of entertainment, that would be a massive problem.

so do you mean to say those are really effective, or not so much?

[GoddeBPM]

Originally Posted by SirokiFighter

so do you mean to say those are really effective, or not so much?

Well if somebody took your jewelery off, I doubt you'll be in any form to fight, so yeah it is effective, but I doubt your everyday warrior will drop to his knees and perform such tactics. But biting ears, didn't Mike Tyson lose that fight even though he bit a bit off... Evan... Hollie... Field... Something's ear? Biting isn't really something that can end a fight neither, groin strikes maybe. But would you want somebody to do these things in an simulation combat like sanshou or MMA.

[SirokiFighter]

Originally Posted by GoddeBPM

Well if somebody took your jewelery off, I doubt you'll be in any form to fight, so yeah it is effective, but I doubt your everyday warrior will drop to his knees and perform such tactics. But biting ears, didn't Mike Tyson lose that fight even though he bit a bit off... Evan... Hollie... Field... Something's ear? Biting isn't really something that can end a fight neither, groin strikes maybe. But would you want somebody to do these things in an simulation combat like sanshou or MMA.

no of course they shouldnt be allowed in competition, but they would really be effective in competiton in my opinion. a trained fighter will see you groing strike coming, and block it, or grap your leg, when you try and kick them there.
if someone were attacking you and you kicked them there it may end the situation it may not. these types of strikes are as effective as any other type of strike. a misconcetion is that tey are the only things needed because they will all work.

if someone is trying to take your purse, a groin strike will probably stop them. its all situational.

if someone bit me if i were attacking them id probably try and do even more harm than i intended.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by John Takeshi

San shou isn't kickboxing. You can wrestle for take downs,throws, and employ every sweep in your arsenal. Muay Thai won't let you do that; neither will Euro/American kickboxing. The only thing I don't like about san shou is that you can't use wrist locks because of the gloves, so that takes out at least half of my best techniques.

Also, it isn't realistic, because you can't bite, break someone's wrist, sock them in the groin, or rip their ear off when they go for a throw.

Neither is Sport MMA, but those guys hurt just like any others in other competitions set with rules.

Originally Posted by GoddeBPM

Yeah but dude, you're not allowed to do any of those things in other martial arts competition-like-sport-type-thing. I mean it's simulation combat not actual fight to the death combat. It's only meant to be realistic to some extent.

So is the UFC/Pride/K-1

Originally Posted by SirokiFighter

groin strikes, and biting wont solve all your problems. this has been said many times on this forum. rip their ear off? are you kidding me?

No, but a .357 mag can do it with ease.

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

If you are in a clinch, the ref will break you, so no wrestling in that manner. There are sweeps and throws, hence my comment about that being where you'll see the chuan fa. San Shou is a sport with rules. No one claimed it was realistic street fighting.

He may think that because it is from China, it isn't a sport.

[SirokiFighter]

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No, but a .357 mag can do it with ease.

i agree.

[47MartialMan]

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No, but a .357 mag can do it with ease.

i agree. [/QUOTE]

Of course it will depend if you are in a environment that guns are easily accesible....

[SirokiFighter]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Of course it will depend if you are in a environment that guns are easily accesible....

if you mean bcause there strict gun laws here. i however have a nanbu m60 from my short police days.