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Old 06-11-2009, 08:05 AM   4 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #16 (permalink)

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coffee tastes horrid
all of it
I've never had coffee that didnt make me ill from the taste
now I know, you're going to say "oh, it's an acquired taste"

if you have to acquire the taste, that just means it sucked to begin with
I bet you didn't enjoy your first beer. But you kept on drinking it anyway right?

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I'm looking into some free radical activity/antioxidant stuff at the moment. I'll keep you(no pun intended!!!)posted!!!
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I recomend either pomegranite juice or acai. Both reduce the number of free radicals in the body. Another good idea is to do a total body cleanse. This is the big hollywood secret for keeping young and reducing stomache bulges.
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that or it is a bunch of new-age BS one or the other
(I am not making a call either way, honestly)
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no, I did not keep drinking beer
I hate beer
why? because beer tastes AWFUL
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no, I did not keep drinking beer
I hate beer
why? because beer tastes AWFUL
I used to hate the taste of beer, but like a lot of teenagers i didn't drink it because it was tasty. Now I rather enjoy the taste of a nice quality beer.

Do you drink the hard stuff?
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I've tried all sorts - Guinness, Coors, Bud, Corona, Sam Adams, they all suck
I even had Guinness in Ireland, where they insist it is better. It isnt
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I like foreign guinness it seems to be sweeter.

I enjoy St. Polly Girl, Heineken, Sam Adams, Tsing Tao, Kirin, Rolling Rock, Red Hook, basically nice bottle beer. Not too crazy about Shwagweiser.
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Okay, here's the deal with reference to caffeine (don't forget, I sell coffee so I know a thing or two about caffeine!)

Caffeine blocks the brains ability to receive melatonin which is one of the chemical precursors for sleep. It tells the brain "it's time to sleep". The more melatonin in the brain, the more likely you are to sleep and sleep well. So, if you have caffeine in your blood stream you CANNOT get as good of a sleep than if you had no caffeine. Tolerance is not a factor.

Caffeine has a half life of 6 hours. So, after consumption of caffeine you're looking at roughly 6 hours before it starts to lose affect and up to 12 hours for it to be processed completely. So it's a good idea not to have a lot of caffeine after, say 4, if you plan to go to bed at let's say 11:00.

Another thing about sleep that the article didn't really get into that really pertains to us as Martial Artists:

The body does more to repair and grow muscle during sleep than it does awake. When we sleep, the body releases more human growth hormones and other anabolic compounds by a factor of like 10 than while we're awake. So if you're working out hard but not getting a good nights sleep you may as well have not worked out. It would actually be WORSE for you to workout and not get good sleep than it would be not to workout.

Sleep is critical for physical recovery from a workout.
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but joe, at the same time, if you are someone who takes creatine - it has recently been shown that caffeine helps with creatine absorption

not disagreeing on the importance of sleep - just dont want to see caffeine demonized (as people tend to do)

this coming from a guy who can shotgun 2-3 cans of redbull and immediately go to sleep
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but joe, at the same time, if you are someone who takes creatine - it has recently been shown that caffeine helps with creatine absorption

not disagreeing on the importance of sleep - just dont want to see caffeine demonized (as people tend to do)

this coming from a guy who can shotgun 2-3 cans of redbull and immediately go to sleep
Actually, caffeine and creatine together can create creatinine which is a byproduct of creatine that the body does not absorb. If more recent studies are showing something different I will have to check that out.

But caffeine is actually REALLY good pre-workout. It not only gives you some energy, it also is a mild pain killer! YAY CAFFEINE!
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yeah Joe, there was a study published just last month, I think, that showed that creatine + caffeine was actually a good combo.. will have to see if I can find the link for you
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This isnt the article I was looking for, but it covers the basics:
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lol you sound just like a southerner, trying to convince me that grits are delicious
they always say "oh, but you havent had MINE"
and then I have theirs, and it is just as awful as every other time I've ever had it

sorry, you (and your coffee) are not special
That's because you don't get the point of grits. They aren't a food so much as a butter delivery system.

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coffee tastes horrid
all of it
I've never had coffee that didnt make me ill from the taste
now I know, you're going to say "oh, it's an acquired taste"

if you have to acquire the taste, that just means it sucked to begin with
They need to make a coffee that tastes how coffee smells.

What about scotch and cigars?
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agreed that coffee (sometimes) smells good

no cigars, bleh

scotch? I can drink but I'm not a big fan of.
Now Vodka is a good drink. If you're doing it right, you never taste it lol
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thank u Joe for the extra info on caffeine and sleep.
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agreed that coffee (sometimes) smells good

no cigars, bleh

scotch? I can drink but I'm not a big fan of.
Now Vodka is a good drink. If you're doing it right, you never taste it lol
So you like the colorless odorless tasteless liquid?

Ever think that maybe you just don't like stuff Damen?
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