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Old 08-12-2006, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Origin of the Martial Arts in general

What are martial arts? Where exactly does it come from? Who created it? These questions don't exactly come easy. They take research, because martial arts have been around for a very long time. Origin varires, and it is hard to know which origin is the true orgin of the birth of the martial arts.

Place of Origins

There are many types of martial arts that did originate in certain countries. Like the several styles of kung-fu in china. In japan we have jujitsu, karate etc....in korea there is tae kwan do, hapkido, etc. There are several styles that originated in thailand, india...and all over asia as well s the middle east all through out africa, in the Americas and all over Europe. There isn't a inhabited continet that some form of martial art did not come into being. But is there really a birth place...a mother land in which all martial arts came in to being from? this is a question that a lot of people search out answers for, but it will continue to lead them in circles.

Theories

There are many theories on what the origins are. Some theories claim that China is the birth place, while some say it is India. There are even some that say that the birth place is in Africa. Some theories look to prehistoric cave men, while some look to creation and a more divine explaintion as is to say the knowlege was passed to man at creation. There are even some theories that suggests extraterrestrial involvement.

The theory I find more logical is that martial arts are not from a particular place of a particular origin. As man, we have thinking minds, and the ability to create. Martial arts were created out of the need for it. Be it militarily, self-defence purpouses, for rebellion, for sport, etc.

Conclusion

The martial arts do not have one origin, but many. Not one birth place, but several. It does not belong to one nation, or one group of people, but the entire human race. It was born in the hearts and minds of men.
That is where all martial arts came from.

I look forward to exploring the many styles of martial arts here, and growing together!
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Old 08-14-2006, 10:39 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Pretty interesting topic. Can't wait to hear what others have to say about it.
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I think that origins would be hard to pinpoint for a single "mother" art. I would assume that anyone could start building their own "art"; while some would be more indepth than other.
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:22 PM   #4 (permalink)

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I've been doing some reading and have found sources that say Jiu Jitsu actually started in India before it did in Japan....
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Old 09-19-2006, 10:55 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Where did you read that? That's pretty interesting.
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:01 AM   #6 (permalink)

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I first read it when researching the Gracie Jiu Jitsu history. A few articles refer to "Count Koma" from Japan and even further back to India as the roots of Jiu Jitsu.
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Old 09-20-2006, 06:06 AM   #7 (permalink)

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I found a similar article. Also says it was in Greece even before that.

http://www.jiu-jitsu.net/history.shtml
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i find this topic mind boggling. i think it is very difficult to find the origin of martial arts this day and age, becuase so many styles have developed over the centuries. i also think the basis of martial art is as simple as walking or running, it's about finding your capabilities.
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I honostly think martial arts were found by accident in most cases. Like many inventions today, people were not looking exactly for that specific idea but, rather, a totally different idea entirely. Perhaps someone needed to reach an area of their home or on the job and could not do it easily because of their legs, which weren't stretched. So over time, as they began to use it more and more, their legs stretched and they were able to get up easier. This led to, oh I dunno, ideas sparking that if I can do it for this, maybe I can do it for something else?

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I don't think it was accident but out of necessity.
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Inspired by accident maybe, invented by accident probably not. Very few things were invented by accident in the past.
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Yeah good point. But if you look at the history of invention, you'll see most were made by accident. I cannot remember one of the most famous inventions but it was found by accident due to vivisection. However, I may be incorrect in this but I know for sure that Classical Conditioning (Pyschology) was found by accident. A scientist was trying to find out about the salivation properties and found that dogs would salivate before food was brought out and that sparked a new direction in psychology.

Something to think about, no doubt, but in Martial Arts it is a bit different, I do agree. But one thing is for damn sure, they did indeed learn through trial and error, just like students learn today!
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i think martial arts was developed in the early stages on man when we were more violent...man realized he could with his hands...from that day on man strived to be stronger.....Martial arts has evolved with the stages of man....our minds advanced and it changed the way we viewd our bodies...we saw the potential in ourselves...and we made our selves better weapons....
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Interesting connection, Stash. I'd have to say I agree with you. But one day man does not say, "I wonder if I punch someone in the face will it hurt them?" It could've been that it was the only thing left to do, and he saw that potential of harm if he worked on it, etc.

Like you said, the more our minds advance, the more potential we see, and the better weapons we become.

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