Most violent martial art?

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

It makes sense, but you won't do it I've trained pretty exclusively in Chinese martial arts, but niether Triangle or Joe show me disrespect on my cross-training opinions and I doubt they would you either. Maybe a few verbal jabs, but an old buzzard like you can take that. I think the problem lies in that you are pretty opinionated and reference your experience quite a lot. Nothing at all wrong with that. However, now that someone wants to know what that experience is, you dodge the question. It makes you look like you are hiding something, even though I know you've said its just because you didn't like the way it was posted. I have to say I'm curious myself. Not because I doubt your training, but because I am just curious of what training influenced you're opinions.

And that is fair enough.

However-

1: I was uncomfortable on how he requested it

2: I dont like posting my experience, per names of instructors, on open forum.

3: I dont mind PM this info in strict confidence

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Chapel

To be absolutely fair, I asked you about 8,500 posts ago.

Did you?

I thought I sent you a PM, in confidence, of that info.

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

And that is fair enough.

However-

1: I was uncomfortable on how he requested it

2: I dont like posting my experience, per names of instructors, on open forum.

3: I dont mind PM this info in strict confidence

I can understand your first point, though I think you are blowing it out of proportion. Your 2nd, I don't understand at all. Why wouldn't you post your instructor's name, unless you are embarrassed of them? Also, if its that big a deal, don't post thier names, but your experience. 3rd point is same as second. 47MM, please take this with a grain of salt, but it seems like you are trying to damn hard to be the mysterious old buzzard. If someone asked for my experience I'd tell them in a heart beat. I don't have a problem telling what I experienced to get where I am and I'm a pretty straight forward guy.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Joemoplata

In the grappling community, this would immediately flag you as a fraud. Just so you know. Without the names of your instructors to verify that you trained with them no one would believe your credentials.

Kickboxing is kickboxing, whether it's from Thailand or Holland. Doesn't much matter.

Well, I am not in the grappling community.

I am in this community.

Just so you know, as long as you have been posting here, it hadn't ooccured to you to make such a request, until recently, and that is what I am cautious about.

When qustions are put to me, per as to challenge my ability, skill, or credentials, I get on the offensive.

Your request is not sincere in my view.

I get the feeling it has a hidden agenda.

What do I have to hide? Everything from the likes of certain people.

This is why we have member names and anonymity on this forum.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

I can understand your first point, though I think you are blowing it out of proportion.

No. If someone feels uncomfortable about something, then they should stand their ground.

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

Your 2nd, I don't understand at all. Why wouldn't you post your instructor's name, unless you are embarrassed of them? Also, if its that big a deal, don't post thier names, but your experience. 3rd point is same as second.

I had, long ago on the internet. A few of them are private individuals, and some yayhoo sought them out and badgered them. So I promised not to display their names in open forum/public view.

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

47MM, please take this with a grain of salt, but it seems like you are trying to damn hard to be the mysterious old buzzard.

Take this with the same salt, with a dash of pepper, I am who I am, and I wont change for the likes of anyone.

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

If someone asked for my experience I'd tell them in a heart beat. I don't have a problem telling what I experienced to get where I am and I'm a pretty straight forward guy.

That's you. The great thing about martial arts, and/or society, people are DIFFERENT. Just because you hold no reservations, like/dislike something, doesn't mean everyone should.

[WC_Lun]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

That's you. The great thing about martial arts, and/or society, people are DIFFERENT. Just because you hold no reservations, like/dislike something, doesn't mean everyone should.

True enough, but there is something to be said about transparency and backing up things you say, even when challenged in a manner you don't like. I honestly think you have the experience you say you do, but when you dodge questions like this it doesn't look so good. Considering you are one of the major contribitors to these forums, it just made sense to me that you would post the info...even if instructor info was not given in all your training.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by Sake Sipper

Um, no its not really.

So from what I am reading, if a BJJ guy didnt study wrestling, and vice versa, but each studied other striking arts, they cant be MMA????

So, striking arts may or may not include, (chokes) Kung Fu, Karate, MT, etc.,

Originally Posted by SirokiFighter

i big misconeption is that judoka cant grapple without a gi on. wrong. with or without it makes no differerence. no gi will only take away a couple of moves

Thinking about this, I can agree.

[souldrum71]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

True enough, but there is something to be said about transparency and backing up things you say, even when challenged in a manner you don't like. I honestly think you have the experience you say you do, but when you dodge questions like this it doesn't look so good. Considering you are one of the major contribitors to these forums, it just made sense to me that you would post the info...even if instructor info was not given in all your training.

Very good points, WC. Notice I've started a new thread for posting individual MA experience so we can keep this thread about deadly martial arts.

[47MartialMan]

Originally Posted by WC_Lun

True enough, but there is something to be said about transparency and backing up things you say, even when challenged in a manner you don't like. I honestly think you have the experience you say you do, but when you dodge questions like this it doesn't look so good. Considering you are one of the major contribitors to these forums, it just made sense to me that you would post the info...even if instructor info was not given in all your training.

I dont think you understand.

It isnt that I won't give info.

I'll only give it under certain conditions;

Confidential PM

[Joemoplata]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

Well, I am not in the grappling community.

I am in this community.

Just so you know, as long as you have been posting here, it hadn't ooccured to you to make such a request, until recently, and that is what I am cautious about.

When qustions are put to me, per as to challenge my ability, skill, or credentials, I get on the offensive.

Your request is not sincere in my view.

I get the feeling it has a hidden agenda.

What do I have to hide? Everything from the likes of certain people.

This is why we have member names and anonymity on this forum.

47MM, within my first two weeks on being a memeber of this forum I called you out as a troll. By asking you to provide your experience in all the arts you say you've cross trained in I was giving you an opportunity to prove me wrong. But since you still won't do it, I stand by my statement.

You are not who you say you are.

You do not have the experience you say you do.

You are trolling this forum.

Hell, I could go onto a Football forum and tell everyone I played professional football for 15 years and you know what the first thing they would ask me would be what team did I play for.

That's all we're asking dude, what team did you play for?

[47MartialMan]

Most violent martial art?

Homosapien Do

[Sake Sipper]

Originally Posted by 47MartialMan

I dont think you understand.

It isnt that I won't give info.

I'll only give it under certain conditions;

Confidential PM

What a strange, overinflated sense of self importance.

[Joemoplata]

Man, you're getting rolled under the bus here 47MM!!

Why not just list your years of experience and the name of the academies you mostly trained under? We don't need every instructors name you ever trained with, that would be like me listing off every BJJ black belt I've trained with.

Just some raw facts to back up your statements.

[TRIANGLEFROMGAURD]

This is so good it just has to be fattening!

[GoddeBPM]

I'm not trying to play suck up or what not, but for whatever reason, if somebody doesn't want to share there background openly, shouldn't we just leave them instead of hammering them? And 47MM has told us that he would tell people his experiences privately.