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I don't know, 47MM. That sounded like a pretty straight-forward question from Joe. What would it hurt to actually give an answer? Why sidestep it by suggesting there is some hidden agenda to his question? Unless, of course, you have something to hide.
Strange, he should ask this after so long.
As if he wants to see proof of my creditentials.
I gave this info some time ago and I dont see the sincerity of the why all of a sudden he asks it now.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
I don't expect legit answers, actually. I've already come to grips with the fact that 47MM is mostly a troll. He just tries to bait people into arguments he doesn't actually agree with, hence a troll.
Being a troll is fun, but it takes away from any credibility he has. So when it comes to discussions about actual fighting stuff, I don't really expect credible answers.
So why ask my background?
Would it make me less of troll?
I dont agree with somethings, big deal.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Not quite submission grappling from the ground is not the same as wrestling. While there are take downs in bjj it's not as in depth as wrestling. Look at Joe and myself for example Joe is way more experienced in bjj then I am but, I have more wrestling. I would use my wrestling to try and counter his bjj, avoid the take down and if it went to the ground try to maintain top position and stay out of his guard. While he would try to keep me in his guard or on my back.
As far as Judo goes they have good throws but, so do I and my throws are all meant to be done with out a gi. I do consider Judo a style of wrestling though and a good substitute for MMA training but, you have to tweak your Judo for MMA.
MMA, like martial arts, can take on many definitions from people.
Some MMA do not practice wrestling, per se'.
You only include wrestling, because of your experience in it.
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
MMA, like martial arts, can take on many definitions from people.
Some MMA do not practice wrestling, per se'.
You only include wrestling, because of your experience in it.
No I include it because I feel that it should be the goal of any fighter to be as well rounded as possible. Deciding where the fight goes is a huge aspect of it. I because of my wrestling have the luxury of picking where I want to fight, with MOST people. Judo and even Sambo give you some options but, with out the gi they are lacking when compared to wrestling.
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No, a troll is someone who posts stuff just to get a rise out of people whether they believe in what they are saying or not. And they usually are not who they claim to be.
Not agreeing with something is fine.
Your credentials would back up your statements. If you can't back up your statements, that would make you a troll.
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No I include it because I feel that it should be the goal of any fighter to be as well rounded as possible. Deciding where the fight goes is a huge aspect of it. I because of my wrestling have the luxury of picking where I want to fight, with MOST people. Judo and even Sambo give you some options but, with out the gi they are lacking when compared to wrestling.
As with BJJ/JJ, dont they have moves with the Gi....
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
No, a troll is someone who posts stuff just to get a rise out of people whether they believe in what they are saying or not. And they usually are not who they claim to be.
Not agreeing with something is fine.
Your credentials would back up your statements. If you can't back up your statements, that would make you a troll.
No. The request you made didnt seem sincere after the barage of posts not to your liking.
Your credentials would back up your statements. If you can't back up your statements, that would make you a troll.
According to this statement- this would not make me a troll
I'm a buzzard as I like top pick on/pick apart things
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
No I include it because I feel that it should be the goal of any fighter to be as well rounded as possible. Deciding where the fight goes is a huge aspect of it. I because of my wrestling have the luxury of picking where I want to fight, with MOST people. Judo and even Sambo give you some options but, with out the gi they are lacking when compared to wrestling.
So from what I am reading from you, if a BJJ guy didnt study wrestling, and vice versa, but each studied other striking arts, they cant be MMA????
So, striking arts may or may not include, (chokes) Kung Fu, Karate, MT, etc.,
Boxing, according to Joe, from what I read, is the only value striking art for MMA
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Styles: Western Boxing, Tai Chi, Animal Form Kung Fu, and Wing Chun
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Your credentials would back up your statements. If you can't back up your statements, that would make you a troll.
According to this statement- this would not make me a troll
I'm a buzzard as I like top pick on/pick apart things
You know the simplist and easiest way would to be just post your training. Why not? I don't think because you posted it before is a valid excuse. Its obvious your an intellegent person, but you also like drama and to argue, from what I've seen. Let's end some of the drama and doubt and just post your experience. Then at least, your pickings would have merit for everyone.
You know the simplist and easiest way would to be just post your training. Why not? I don't think because you posted it before is a valid excuse. Its obvious your an intellegent person, but you also like drama and to argue, from what I've seen. Let's end some of the drama and doubt and just post your experience. Then at least, your pickings would have merit for everyone.
You know, this make sense.
As for a excuse, I was just saying I posted it before.
Drama - I like it.
I dont like the way it was posted after such a exhange of posts.
It is a set-up to set me apart from MMA and cross-training.
I wonder if this is to include "dabbed arts"?
I have PMed a few people this info.
I dont like my instructors names on open forum
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
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Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
MMA implies training in the following disciplines:
Wrestling
Submission
Boxing
Kickboxin
I have heard you explain many times on this forum how you were cross training long before MMA became popular and therefore have been doing MMA for years. So, can you please give us your experience in those areas listed above? Please include years training in the art, and whom you trained with and when.
Thanks!
What type of Kickboxing - MT or American?
__________________ What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.
That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Styles: Western Boxing, Tai Chi, Animal Form Kung Fu, and Wing Chun
Posts: 1,974
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You know, this make sense.
As for a excuse, I was just saying I posted it before.
Drama - I like it.
I dont like the way it was posted after such a exhange of posts.
It is a set-up to set me apart from MMA and cross-training.
I wonder if this is to include "dabbed arts"?
I have PMed a few people this info.
I dont like my instructors names on open forum
It makes sense, but you won't do it I've trained pretty exclusively in Chinese martial arts, but niether Triangle or Joe show me disrespect on my cross-training opinions and I doubt they would you either. Maybe a few verbal jabs, but an old buzzard like you can take that. I think the problem lies in that you are pretty opinionated and reference your experience quite a lot. Nothing at all wrong with that. However, now that someone wants to know what that experience is, you dodge the question. It makes you look like you are hiding something, even though I know you've said its just because you didn't like the way it was posted. I have to say I'm curious myself. Not because I doubt your training, but because I am just curious of what training influenced you're opinions.
Not quite submission grappling from the ground is not the same as wrestling. While there are take downs in bjj it's not as in depth as wrestling. Look at Joe and myself for example Joe is way more experienced in bjj then I am but, I have more wrestling. I would use my wrestling to try and counter his bjj, avoid the take down and if it went to the ground try to maintain top position and stay out of his guard. While he would try to keep me in his guard or on my back.
No I include it because I feel that it should be the goal of any fighter to be as well rounded as possible. Deciding where the fight goes is a huge aspect of it. I because of my wrestling have the luxury of picking where I want to fight, with MOST people. Judo and even Sambo give you some options but, with out the gi they are lacking when compared to wrestling.
i big misconeption is that judoka cant grapple without a gi on. wrong. with or without it makes no differerence. no gi will only take away a couple of moves
Most violent martial art?
I've trained pretty exclusively in Chinese martial arts, but niether Triangle or Joe show me disrespect on my cross-training opinions and I doubt they would you either. Maybe a few verbal jabs, but an old buzzard like you can take that. I think the problem lies in that you are pretty opinionated and reference your experience quite a lot. Nothing at all wrong with that. However, now that someone wants to know what that experience is, you dodge the question. It makes you look like you are hiding something, even though I know you've said its just because you didn't like the way it was posted. I have to say I'm curious myself. Not because I doubt your training, but because I am just curious of what training influenced you're opinions.
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