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05-14-2008, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan Interesting thread. Are we discussing these competitions one type/per specific, or other types, from the same practitioner/poster as well? | any style any fight. |
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05-14-2008, 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TRIANGLEFROMGAURD HS Wrestling 112-17
Muay Thai 9-5
2 wins by KO, 7 by decision, 1 loss by KO the rest by decision. Boxing 3-0 3 wins by KO/TKO
Submission grappling, not sure of the exact number I think 4-1.
MMA 11-3-1
7 wins by KO/TKO, 2 by submission 1 triangle choke 1 head and arm triangle, 1 by decision. 2 losses by submission, 1 arm bar 1 omaplata, 1 loss tap out due to strikes. 1 draw.
Oh yeah street fights had a few. I'm alive so I think I did ok  | nice. pretty impressive |
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05-14-2008, 10:37 PM
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Home Country: | I have never been in any fight, be it tournament or in real life. I simply train for exercise and the love of the arts. The more I train in MA, the further I am from any fights. I think your MA training can teach you to recognise possible threat on the street, thus you may avoid such threat. On top of that, I am lucky to live in such a peaceful neghbourhood. Plus, my smiley face has never tested anyone's nerve, thus far.  |
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05-15-2008, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by daddydiboy I have never been in any fight, be it tournament or in real life. I simply train for exercise and the love of the arts. The more I train in MA, the further I am from any fights. I think your MA training can teach you to recognise possible threat on the street, thus you may avoid such threat. On top of that, I am lucky to live in such a peaceful neghbourhood. Plus, my smiley face has never tested anyone's nerve, thus far.  | You hit a point I was about to make.
However, as a martial artist ages, they are less likely to get into a physical confrontation. Is this age, or gained confidence/experience?
Here is the kicker, non-martial artists follow the same, they are less likely to get into a physical confrontation.
Martial arts seem to be a tool to not get into fights in the first place.
So, the pop quiz question; even if one doesn't train to fight, how is it that they can not get into physical confrontations?
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
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05-15-2008, 06:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Chi-town Styles: Pankration, BJJ, Sambo, Boxing, MT, Greco
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Originally Posted by daddydiboy I have never been in any fight, be it tournament or in real life. I simply train for exercise and the love of the arts. The more I train in MA, the further I am from any fights. I think your MA training can teach you to recognise possible threat on the street, thus you may avoid such threat. On top of that, I am lucky to live in such a peaceful neghbourhood. Plus, my smiley face has never tested anyone's nerve, thus far.  | I like your answer and honesty + rep.
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05-15-2008, 04:12 PM
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#21 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan You hit a point I was about to make.
However, as a martial artist ages, they are less likely to get into a physical confrontation. Is this age, or gained confidence/experience?
Here is the kicker, non-martial artists follow the same, they are less likely to get into a physical confrontation.
Martial arts seem to be a tool to not get into fights in the first place.
So, the pop quiz question; even if one doesn't train to fight, how is it that they can not get into physical confrontations? | we cpould get into deeper meaning about fighting being good, and or why people fight, and such. but why? we are all martial artists and know fighting on street should be avoided, and most of the time will be avoided.
im asking these questions of fight expieirience for a reason.
to answer your question. as martial artists we know not only how to fight but how not to fight. we train not only how to react in a violent situation, but also how to avoid that situation all together so it never gets violent, or even befriend the possible threat. and much much more. for future posters. please i do not wish too hear about your ideas of fighting, and if it should happen, and how dangerous fights are. i say this with no ill will, or attitude, i simply wish to hear your combat experience, and training methods. thank you very much.
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05-15-2008, 05:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Styles: Jeet Kune Do (philosophy),Muay Thai,Kung Fu
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now i know i have no experience compared to most of the people on the forum.
well here it goes.
im not gonna add details because there is no need to, plus i dont want to sound cocky or nothing.
but
in 2nd grade (i had almost a year in Kyokushin practice under my belt) and this kid picked on my bro. ended up kicking him and he didnt get hurt but i guess i scared him.
after that just a few street fights, and a LOT of sparring.
a LOT of practice and training, but thats about it.
almost got into about 4 fights this year but i am glad i didnt, and kept my cool.
no competitions because i was never in a sport martial art, only traditional or modern types, that taught stuff you wouldnt dare using in a match with rules.
oh and there is a mongolian guy who is picking on me at school who is a blackbelt in TKD and is taking Muay Thai, and from what i hear he knows what hes doing so im guessing its no mcdojo.
but i hope my head gets me out of this one because this is gonna be the first real fight with another martial artist............one more experienced at that
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05-15-2008, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Dragon 117 WOAH!!!!
now i know i have no experience compared to most of the people on the forum.
well here it goes.
im not gonna add details because there is no need to, plus i dont want to sound cocky or nothing.
but
in 2nd grade (i had almost a year in Kyokushin practice under my belt) and this kid picked on my bro. ended up kicking him and he didnt get hurt but i guess i scared him.
after that just a few street fights, and a LOT of sparring.
a LOT of practice and training, but thats about it.
almost got into about 4 fights this year but i am glad i didnt, and kept my cool.
no competitions because i was never in a sport martial art, only traditional or modern types, that taught stuff you wouldnt dare using in a match with rules.
oh and there is a mongolian guy who is picking on me at school who is a blackbelt in TKD and is taking Muay Thai, and from what i hear he knows what hes doing so im guessing its no mcdojo.
but i hope my head gets me out of this one because this is gonna be the first real fight with another martial artist............one more experienced at that | suprising as this may sound but ive heard some martial artists say that i easier for them to fight another martial artist, than someone with no martial art experience.
anyone? why do you think some feel this way? |
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05-15-2008, 08:08 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Kansas City MO Styles: Western Boxing, Tai Chi, Animal Form Kung Fu, and Wing Chun
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Originally Posted by SirokiFighter suprising as this may sound but ive heard some martial artists say that i easier for them to fight another martial artist, than someone with no martial art experience.
anyone? why do you think some feel this way? | Predictability.
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05-15-2008, 08:33 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Styles: Jeet Kune Do (philosophy),Muay Thai,Kung Fu
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Originally Posted by SirokiFighter suprising as this may sound but ive heard some martial artists say that i easier for them to fight another martial artist, than someone with no martial art experience.
anyone? why do you think some feel this way? |
well when i spar its easier because most styles have a set stance or they are predictable or i am familiar with the types of techniques they will use so i have an idea of what to and what not to do.
also i can use my footwork to move around them or away or even in close very fast. but with the kids in high schools these days, some of them know how to fight and they usually just swing out of control so you have to be very aware of whats going on and stuff. plus they dont have any set stance sometimes and they imitate muhammed ali and are always bouncing so they can actually move pretty decent.
but i think that since they only know offense with fists then they dont know how to defend against kicks, knees, elbows, headbutts, throws, joint locks, etc etc so its easier because they leave a WHOLE LOT of themselves open. also mentally they dont expect me to know how to fight due to their own over confidence so once i land a good blow their morale goes down a lot, leaving me to psyke them out and just keep pounding away.
against a martial artist however they know or have knowledge on how to defend effectively and fight effectively.
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05-15-2008, 09:48 PM
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#26 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by WC_Lun Predictability. | anything else you think? |
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05-15-2008, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Little Dragon 117 well when i spar its easier because most styles have a set stance or they are predictable or i am familiar with the types of techniques they will use so i have an idea of what to and what not to do.
also i can use my footwork to move around them or away or even in close very fast. but with the kids in high schools these days, some of them know how to fight and they usually just swing out of control so you have to be very aware of whats going on and stuff. plus they dont have any set stance sometimes and they imitate muhammed ali and are always bouncing so they can actually move pretty decent.
but i think that since they only know offense with fists then they dont know how to defend against kicks, knees, elbows, headbutts, throws, joint locks, etc etc so its easier because they leave a WHOLE LOT of themselves open. also mentally they dont expect me to know how to fight due to their own over confidence so once i land a good blow their morale goes down a lot, leaving me to psyke them out and just keep pounding away.
against a martial artist however they know or have knowledge on how to defend effectively and fight effectively. | what of when you are fighting someone and you figure out they are martial artist during the fight, but give no signs of which style they study? |
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05-15-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SirokiFighter anything else you think? | hmm other than predictability, perhaps overconfidence. Seen a lot of martial artist think they are fighters when they aren't. You don't see so many fighters that think they are martial artist.
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05-15-2008, 10:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Denver Colorado Styles: Jeet Kune Do (philosophy),Muay Thai,Kung Fu
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Originally Posted by SirokiFighter what of when you are fighting someone and you figure out they are martial artist during the fight, but give no signs of which style they study? | well then i guess it becomes up to your awareness and ability to defend yourself. it comes down to how well you read your opponent and how well your body can perform
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05-16-2008, 12:25 AM
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Home Country: | So, the pop quiz question; even if one doesn't train to fight, how is it that they can not get into physical confrontations?
To answer this question, a saying comes to my mind. "One good turn deserve another". If you are the good guy, never hurt anybody, a good samaritan, is there any reason for anybody to hurt you? On the other hand, "what goes around comes around".  |
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