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Old 06-11-2008, 11:27 AM   #16 (permalink)

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Don't American laws vary throughout states?
Yes they do, but the United States also have federal laws which govern ALL states.

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No they are not. You can buy a full auto made before 1986. They cost around 15k including permits. Silencers, uzi, ak 47 are all legal as well.
This again depends on the state I guess then. California has some of the toughest laws in the land. Florida has some of the most relaxed gun laws I have ever seen though, so I wouldn't doubt it.

In Florida, it is legal to shoot someone if you simply fear for your life from them.
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Yes they do, but the United States also have federal laws which govern ALL states.

This again depends on the state I guess then. California has some of the toughest laws in the land. Florida has some of the most relaxed gun laws I have ever seen though, so I wouldn't doubt it.

In Florida, it is legal to shoot someone if you simply fear for your life from them.
Yea, I only know the federal laws and PA laws. Some other states as well but mostly just PA. In pa, you can pretty much own any weapon as long as you have the right permit. Fully autos included. They are way too expensive to shoot in my opinion though, but i guess if you have 15K++ to spend on a gun you dont mind spending a few hundred $$ on ammo for a an hour at the range.
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I heard nunchuks are illegal in California. And is it true in some places you can shoot somebody if they drive onto your front porche/lawn etc.?
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In some places in the states you can shoot people for trespassing.
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I heard nunchuks are illegal in California. And is it true in some places you can shoot somebody if they drive onto your front porche/lawn etc.?
Nunchakus are illegal in MOST states unless used for demonstration. It is illegal to carry them concealed though. As well as butterfly (ballisong) knives.

On shooting someone for driving into your lawn or onto your porch...Well, it depends on the state. Before I moved from Washington state, you had to retreat to the furthest point of your house before shooting someone was legal. And they had to continue to advance toward you in a threatening manor. Boy, was it a shocker to see a billboard on the main interstate freeway here in Florida that said that Floridians can shoot first! Basicly, we Floridians are allowed to use deadly force if we feel our life is in danger from someone else. So, if they drive their car up onto my yard and are yelling and screaming about how they're going to kill me, then yes, I can drop them where they sit in their car. Of course, I could do it in the Wal-Mart parking lot too and be legally justified in doing so.
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What about carrying guns?
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In many states, carrying a gun is legal IF you have a permit. Many states have a person go through a class and pay a fee to obtain the permit.
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Can I ask why you guys carry guns around?
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In many states, carrying a gun is legal IF you have a permit. Many states have a person go through a class and pay a fee to obtain the permit.
In PA, you just need to pay a $30 fee. Takes around 15 minutes to get the permit which lasts for 5 years.

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Can I ask why you guys carry guns around?
I think its the same answer why most people originally start a MA. for self protection, to defend oneself, etc.

I got my permit because I like to load my clips before I go to the range and I couldnt carry a loaded clip to the range without one. Also, I travel across states as I live in two, so I keep a gun in both houses. If I go camping, I bring a gun, etc..

Some people carry them everywhere they go and you would never realize it. The interesting thing is that well over 90% of crimes involving guns used illegal guns from people without permits. And most of the legal ones were crimes of passion. This is one of the reasons why gun control in the US is a waste of time. They restrict guns from law abiding citizens, not the criminals.
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It would be asking for trouble, but I don't really see it as a problem other than that. The police would look and wonder. They may even stop you and ask what you're doing with it. Thugs would simply look and laugh, but I doubt any would attempt anything more than that. Although, it IS a crime in at least one state to carry a concealed weapon longer than 6 feet. But if you want to carry a sword in America (for the time being) the get your groove on big guy, and go carry it around. LOL
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It would be asking for trouble, but I don't really see it as a problem other than that. The police would look and wonder. They may even stop you and ask what you're doing with it. Thugs would simply look and laugh, but I doubt any would attempt anything more than that. Although, it IS a crime in at least one state to carry a concealed weapon longer than 6 feet. But if you want to carry a sword in America (for the time being) the get your groove on big guy, and go carry it around. LOL
I know with knives, its anything bigger than your hand in PA is illegal. I am guessing if you tried to carry a sword in public, you would be arrested with a felony for carrying a weapon.
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Carry laws vary from state to state. In Alaska for example you can carry with a permit but, it can not be concealed. Straight old west style

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I know with knives, its anything bigger than your hand in PA is illegal. I am guessing if you tried to carry a sword in public, you would be arrested with a felony for carrying a weapon.
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§908. Prohibited offensive weapons.

(a) Offense defined.-A person commits a misdemeanor of the first degree if, except as authorized by law, he makes repairs, sells, or otherwise deals in, uses, or possesses any offensive weapon.(b) Exceptions.*

(1) It is a defense under this section for the defendant to prove by a preponderance of evidence that he possessed or dealt with the weapon solely as a curio or in a dramatic performance, or that, with the exception of a bomb, grenade or incendiary device, he complied with the National Firearms Act (26 U.S.C. §5801 et seq.), or that he possessed it briefly in consequence of having found it or taken it from an aggressor, or under circumstances simi*larly negativing any intent or likelihood that the weapon would be used unlawfully.

(2) This section does not apply to police forensic firearms experts or police forensic firearms laboratories. Also exempt from this section are forensic firearms experts or forensic firearms laboratories operating in the ordinary course of business and engaged in lawful operation who notify in writing, on an annual basis, the chief or head of any police force or police department of a city, and, elsewhere, the sheriff of a county in which they are located, of the possession, type and use of offensive weapons.

(3) This section shall not apply to any person who makes, repairs, sells or otherwise deals in, uses or possesses any firearm for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.

(c) Definitions.-As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:

"Firearm." Any weapon which is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive, or the frame or receiver of any such weapon. "Offensive weapons" Any bomb, grenade, machine gun, sawed-off shotgun with a barrel less than 18 inches, firearm specially made or specially adapted for concealment or silent discharge, any blackjack, sandbag, metal knuckles, dagger, knife, razor or cutting instrument,( <-note the comma) the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mecha*nism, or otherwise, any stun gun, stun baton, taser or other electronic or electric weapon or other implement for the infliction of serious bodily injury which serves no common lawful purpose.

(d) Exemptions.-The use and possession of blackjacks by the following persons in the course of their duties are exempt from this section:

(1) Police officers, as defined by and who meet the requirements of the act of June 18, 1974 (PL. 359, No. 120), referred to as the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.

(2) Police officers of first class cities who have successfully completed training which is substantially equivalent to the program under the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.

(3) Pennsylvania State Police officers.

(4) Sheriffs and deputy sheriffs of the various counties who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.

(5) Police officers employed by the Commonwealth who have satisfactorily met the requirements of the Municipal Police Education and Training Law.

(6) Deputy sheriffs with adequate training as determined by the Pennsylvania Commis*sion on Crime and Delinquency.
This would indicate to me that a sword would be acceptable, as the bladed instrument which would be offensive would be one that has the blade of which is exposed in an automatic way by switch, push-button, spring mecha*nism....But I may be wrong.
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