MMa question

[Little Dragon 117]

Originally Posted by Ninjutsu Panama

It has everything, Kicks, elbows, Punches, knee strikes, grappling, ground fighting, weapons, joint locks, joint manipulations, pressure points, etc etc

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[Ninjutsu Panama]

haha ur welcome man! and thanx 4 the rep!...btw, check this webpages...www.winjutsu.com and www.ninjutsu.com so u can check if there r any dojos near u!

[Little Dragon 117]

even more help? h aha ha thanks!
yeah I found one right away!

[disgruntled]

darn i missed so much of this discussion

YES WHY WONT THEY USE SIDE KICK????!!! it really annoys me, i thought that maybe it is because there are a lot of self-defences against it, but i know plently of self defences that would work against a round house and teep too, so that is not it.... not to mention, i find MMAist are exposed to so few MA (in general) that i seriously doubt that they know these self defences (she trys to say not sounding bitter)

PRESSURE POINTS!!!! ok i can see now allowing joint manipulation, it is very dangerous, but come on, disallowing pressure points!! they are affective and not dangerous (in general) in my BJJ class i asked if i could use pressure points and i was told not because it is like cheeting or fighting dirty..... i say that is total BS.... just because it is a very affective technique it does not make it cheap!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JackG]

the problem with joint locks is because there not easyily applied when your against the best strikers in the world it hard to say the least !

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

Originally Posted by Ninjutsu Panama

It has everything, Kicks, elbows, Punches, knee strikes, grappling, ground fighting, weapons, joint locks, joint manipulations, pressure points, etc etc

Ninjutsu is a complete wheel, thats why I study it. The only thing I dont like is that when we train there is always a determined outcome to the kata, good guy vs bad guy. Thats why I picked up TKD so I could spar freely and express myself.

[disgruntled]

Originally Posted by JackG

the problem with joint locks is because there not easyily applied when your against the best strikers in the world it hard to say the least !

yeah but MMA guys have a nasty habit of not protecting their arms. there are so many matches where they could have easily grabbed the arm and went into a joint lock because they left it hanging out. no to mention that a lot of joint locks i know are for striking.... they strike and you block and grab the arm then go into the lock

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

I dont know how easy that would be with some of the best fighters in the world. Couch seat fighting is a lot easier than having the haymaker coming at your face. Do you practice joint locks with people coming at you with 100% of their punching speed.

I say that because I we dont train at that intensity and I personally dont know how many techniques I could do against a live opponent. Not trying to diss.

[disgruntled]

Originally Posted by drallig9399

I dont know how easy that would be with some of the best fighters in the world. Couch seat fighting is a lot easier than having the haymaker coming at your face. Do you practice joint locks with people coming at you with 100% of their punching speed.

I say that because I we dont train at that intensity and I personally dont know how many techniques I could do against a live opponent. Not trying to diss.

yes and no.... for my black belt test they are told not to hold back and so am i..... to add some saftey i was told if they were going to punch or kick, but the kicks were random..... obviously since you know the people, (generally) you don't go too rough, but it still gives you good experience because it is at a level where you have to do the technique right to get them down, but if you bugger up you won't get hurt too bad.... and you are forgeting that you could set them up to get into a possition to take them down.... it is hard to explain, but it is no different than throwing a jab to set up a cross.... you set them up, get their arm and they are down.... that is not how the SD is taught, but at that level it is just common sense.

[jorgetkd]

The fighting stance for MMA is pretty frontal, and for a side kick you need a side stance, like in TKD, with your strong side pointing to your rival, that's why it is used in TKD, for performing a side kick from a front stance you have to turn, making the side kick too slow and lacking surprise.

[TKDaddict]

yeah ok it would be good to change stance though. it is mixed martial arts.

[disgruntled]

you don't have to use a frontal stance though.... they do because of boxing and muay thai.... in HKD when we did punching we were in between a more sideways sparring stance and a frontal stance.

[TKDaddict]

in a frontal stance you are open for a front kick and uppercut. which do you find better for sparring?

[disgruntled]

Originally Posted by TKDaddict

in a frontal stance you are open for a front kick and uppercut. which do you find better for sparring?

personally i would prefer to stay somewhere between the two. that way you can switch between them easier. because both have their advantages and weeknesses.

[Zaraki Kenpachi]

I prefer to stay bladed when facing an opponent.

In terms of MMA, I would only use the side kick if I had already stunned my opponent, that way the speed of the kick wouldnt be my primary reason for using it, but the power..."kick through his spine" as my master says.