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Old 05-10-2007, 09:47 AM   #1 (permalink)

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What are the differences??

Being fairly new to BJJ (and liking every minute of it),
I haven't done much research, so i figured i'd start here.

What are some of the differences (if any) between
Japanese Jiu-Jitsu and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu??

In addition, why do I see so many different spellings??
Jujutsu, Jujitsu, Jui-Jitsu, Jiu-Jitsu, etc...
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:52 PM   #2 (permalink)

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From previous posts on here I have heard a lot about BJJ being mostly ground and JJ being more stand up. Not exactly sure if that is 100% correct.
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:58 PM   #3 (permalink)

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From what I have gathered about BJJ, it is made to be more close-in and ground-work, while traditional jujitsu also incorporates strikes. I am not sure if this is true, but I have also heard that BJJ is more tuned to sport-type fights (MMA stuff), while traditional is as much about being able to cause severe bodily harm as it is about controlling an opponent with joint-locks.

For the spelling thing, it's because it's being translated from a language that doesn't use the Roman alphabet, and was translated before a system of translation was established. My guess is that it is jujitsu, but that's merely a guess.
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Wohoo

Ok this is my perfect thread:

Japanese jiu-jitsu is mainly stand up although does include a fair amount of groundwork but also teaches throws locks and some strikes.But the groundwork is only 20-30% of what is tradiontal taught, throws locks and break falling are the majority. Japanese Jiu jitsu is very much a close quarters art , all our techniques when defending against strikes result in us being close enough to throw locks etc unlike tae kwon do where having distance is good thing.

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu it was taught to the gracie sons by japanese martial artist whom was helped by helio gracie. BJJ is 80-90% groundwork with some taekdowns not throws i.e the kind you see in Judo which also orginated for Japanese Jiu -Jitsu.

a Common mistake is Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu did not orginate from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu the Main Diffrence is the lack of stand up fighting in BJJ although Japanese Jiu jitsu has groundwork depending on thw school it is not the focus nor should be (traditonaly) most Japanese Jiu Jitsu Fighter consider themselves standup fight ad some have had very succesfull MMA carrers.
And in terms of spelling Im no 100% sure but I use Jiu-Jitsu
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Great,
Looks like this was the place to go for answers.

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The real spelling is Jujutsu, the reson for this is:

Ju means soft, flexible.

Jutsu means technique, art.
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For the spelling thing, it's because it's being translated from a language that doesn't use the Roman alphabet, and was translated before a system of translation was established. My guess is that it is jujitsu, but that's merely a guess.
To back this up, the capital of China used to be Peking, now it is Beijing. (They are actually the same city.)
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did some research

ok I put in Some leg work:

The word is a compound of ju meaning soft or yeilding and jutsu meaning practise or art. Remember that Japanese is written with ideograms so there can never be an exact Engligh version. All of the following spellings can be seen in print.
Jiu-jitsu

This was the way the word was first written in English in th 1890's. So it could be argued that this spelling has been in use the longest.
Ju-jitsu

This is given in the dictionary as the most common variation.

Since -jitsu should only really be used as a suffix, some people see no point in having a compound word. After all, judo started out as jiu-do.
Ju-jutsu

This is supposed to better represent the sound of the word in Japanese.
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and also the reason why The gracie family altered the traditional Jitsu to how it is now in brazil is because Helio Gracie was small and weak and was often overpowered and found himself on the ground.
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and also the reason why The gracie family altered the traditional Jitsu to how it is now in brazil is because Helio Gracie was small and weak and was often overpowered and found himself on the ground.
Good Stuff JackG,
I love how Martial Arts adapt to meet particular challenges!!

I thought Carlos Gracie was taught judo which he in turn modified,
adapted and renamed.
Is this true??
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What i know about his intro

Ok Full story what happened was Helio Gracie was a very ill and sickly child and wasn't allowed to train with his brother who were being taught Japanese jitsu he just watched one day I think his brother who was teaching at the time was late and a new guy shown up wanting to learn so helio starting showing him the stuff he had saw and when his brother came the guy asked if he could be taught be Helio ....Helio was made a teacher . so it began.
^ got that from the Gracies website so gonna be as good as your gonna get
I'll have a look for the judo you mentioned
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really i saw many differances between bjj and japanese one ,
the jiu jitsu till this moment is the best ground fighting .
and the differences is not many for my own opinion really i like the jiu jitsu cause what i was taught that the strikes is just a key for the opponant & u have to engage with the opponant and take him down or finish him .
thats why u have to know ground fighting even it was from mars but u have to know it .
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Reason for the Jiu-Jitsu spelling

"Jiu Jitsu" is just a romanization of the way that "Jujutsu" sounds when pronounced by a native speaker of Portuguese. Therefore, not the best way to write it if your goal is to distinguish between BJJ and the original art."

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To back this up, the capital of China used to be Peking, now it is Beijing. (They are actually the same city.)
The reason for this, is that MOST Asian Languages use syllables for each "character"(eg: 绡=Xie((3 letters)) ), while the Roman alphabet has one letter for each Character.
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The reason for this, is that MOST Asian Languages use syllables for each "character"(eg: 绡=Xie((3 letters)) ), while the Roman alphabet has one letter for each Character.
Which is how Juijitsu could be the same as Jujitsu... or any other strange spelling contradictions we see in martial arts.
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