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Old 10-22-2009, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)

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blue belt question

This question is probably for Joe and any other high ranking bjj guys. at what point is a white belt ready for a blue belt? I now have 12 months of experience and think that I could get it anytime this year (fingers crossed). What does the instructor look for? The reason I ask is because i have seen people who had 2 years of training but the same knowledge/technical skill as me and were promoted and I was kinda shocked they were promoted since I could submit them regularly. Then I have seen guys who are just awesome at 7 months and promoted as well. Then I have seen guys who have like 2+ years, are good and were not promoted. So Im asking what you look for?

I am trying to guess where I fit in the bjj world, especially since my old school didnt give stripes. And at this point, I have submited plenty of blue belts (not that tapping in class really matters) and did decent in my first tournament and i just feel like it will happen at some point this year.
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Old 10-22-2009, 07:58 PM   #2 (permalink)

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This question is probably for Joe and any other high ranking bjj guys. at what point is a white belt ready for a blue belt? I now have 12 months of experience and think that I could get it anytime this year (fingers crossed). What does the instructor look for? The reason I ask is because i have seen people who had 2 years of training but the same knowledge/technical skill as me and were promoted and I was kinda shocked they were promoted since I could submit them regularly. Then I have seen guys who are just awesome at 7 months and promoted as well. Then I have seen guys who have like 2+ years, are good and were not promoted. So Im asking what you look for?

I am trying to guess where I fit in the bjj world, especially since my old school didnt give stripes. And at this point, I have submited plenty of blue belts (not that tapping in class really matters) and did decent in my first tournament and i just feel like it will happen at some point this year.
John, it's always hard to say because each instructor really has their own criteria. I would hate to give you my opinion without really knowing what that criteria is, or without having spent any time with you on the mats. But from what you're describing it sounds like you are probably very close.

Something to consider: Many BJJ instructors will have their really good students wait a bit longer for their promotion. The reasoning behind this is twofold: the really good students are setting the standard for the lower belts to look up to AND they want to see how humble and good student will be. If they start getting crappy about not getting promoted then they get a talking to...you are expected to keep your mouth shut about the belt and never ask the instructor about it.

So my only advice would be keep training, don't worry about the belt, and never EVER ask your instructor if they think you are ready for the belt! EVER!
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Something to consider: Many BJJ instructors will have their really good students wait a bit longer for their promotion. The reasoning behind this is twofold: the really good students are setting the standard for the lower belts to look up to AND they want to see how humble and good student will be...
I think this is how my instructor is. I heard from some of the other students, he likes to make the guys really sweat it out waiting for the next strip or belt. He's been looking at my belt the past few classes (and a couple other guys belts) when we line up and bow and was thinking something to himself. So I think this may mean I should be getting the second strip soon but he wants to push me even harder. That's fine though, I'm up for the challenge!

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So my only advice would be keep training, don't worry about the belt...
I just want 3 strips so I can do the advanced classes and roll with the upper belts. Other then that, I'm not too concerned with the belt.
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I think this is how my instructor is. I heard from some of the other students, he likes to make the guys really sweat it out waiting for the next strip or belt. He's been looking at my belt the past few classes (and a couple other guys belts) when we line up and bow and was thinking something to himself. So I think this may mean I should be getting the second strip soon but he wants to push me even harder. That's fine though, I'm up for the challenge!



I just want 3 strips so I can do the advanced classes and roll with the upper belts. Other then that, I'm not too concerned with the belt.
Ah, that makes sense yeah. If you have an advanced class thats even more motivation!
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John, it's always hard to say because each instructor really has their own criteria. I would hate to give you my opinion without really knowing what that criteria is, or without having spent any time with you on the mats. But from what you're describing it sounds like you are probably very close.

Something to consider: Many BJJ instructors will have their really good students wait a bit longer for their promotion. The reasoning behind this is twofold: the really good students are setting the standard for the lower belts to look up to AND they want to see how humble and good student will be. If they start getting crappy about not getting promoted then they get a talking to...you are expected to keep your mouth shut about the belt and never ask the instructor about it.

So my only advice would be keep training, don't worry about the belt, and never EVER ask your instructor if they think you are ready for the belt! EVER!
thanks joe. I figure i am close but who knows. from what i have seen it seems random to me...although im sure the brown/black belts know a lot better than me my coach said we are going to have promotions in december, so its got me thinking. most of the other blue belts at my new school trained for around a year to get it. I have 12 months of training and will have about 14-15 during december...but i will have only been at my new school 4 months. i do not care too much about belts but since i know about this graduation i am curious.
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Some good reading on this subject.

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I believe it should be based on time and effort put in as well as skill level. The reason you may see one guy get his blue after 7 months and another after 2 years is probably because the guy that has trained 7 months may be training twice a day 7 days a week yet the 2 year guy may only train once every two weeks, if you put in the hard work the rewards will eventually come. Adequate mat time is essential for progress.
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