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What is Hapkido?
I'm a whitebelt in Tang Soo Do, but i also think hapkido is a really interesting martial art. Could some of you blackbelts out there in interenet land do us newbies a favor and explain exactly what hapkido is all about?
DaedongRyu YuSool (Japan- Daito Ryu Yawara or call Aiki JuJitsu- meaning great eastern style soft skills) Master Yong-Sool Choi studied from Dakeda Shokaku Daito Ryu Yawara founder (later Morihei Ueshiba changed the name to Aikido) in Japan 1930`s at Shokaku home. And after the Korean liberation in 1945, Master Choi returned to Korea and resided in Daegu, Korea. Under the Yawara name, he gave private lessons only out of his home. After the Korean war that ended in 1953, Master Choi started teaching the public - still only teaching out of his school and at own home. The name Yawara was later changed to Hapkido by a few Yu Sool (Yawara) masters in Seoul, the capital city of Korea. And slowly Hapkido was mixed with Hwa Rang Do and other martial art styles and turned generic. Now Hapkiddo looks more like the original martial art of Korea, namely Um-Yang Kwon, which only two people in modern time ever learned - the name Um-Yang Kwon however is no longer used as it was changed in to Hwa Rang DoŽ. The Hapkido of today is a form of unarmed self-defense based on circular techniques such as joint locks, foot sweeps and kicks, but incorporating punches and circular throws and a yielding principle similar to that of Aikido, however original Hapkido was actually the exact same thing as Daito Ryu Yawara. The emphasis on circular motion allows for a free-flowing form of combat in which one technique can merge with the next and the direction of force can easily be changed by changing the axis of rotation.
Complete's very own words... I think.
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DaedongRyu YuSool (Japan- Daito Ryu Yawara or call Aiki JuJitsu- meaning great eastern style soft skills) Master Yong-Sool Choi studied from Dakeda Shokaku Daito Ryu Yawara founder (later Morihei Ueshiba changed the name to Aikido) in Japan 1930`s at Shokaku home. And after the Korean liberation in 1945, Master Choi returned to Korea and resided in Daegu, Korea. Under the Yawara name, he gave private lessons only out of his home. After the Korean war that ended in 1953, Master Choi started teaching the public - still only teaching out of his school and at own home. The name Yawara was later changed to Hapkido by a few Yu Sool (Yawara) masters in Seoul, the capital city of Korea. And slowly Hapkido was mixed with Hwa Rang Do and other martial art styles and turned generic. Now Hapkiddo looks more like the original martial art of Korea, namely Um-Yang Kwon, which only two people in modern time ever learned - the name Um-Yang Kwon however is no longer used as it was changed in to Hwa Rang DoŽ. The Hapkido of today is a form of unarmed self-defense based on circular techniques such as joint locks, foot sweeps and kicks, but incorporating punches and circular throws and a yielding principle similar to that of Aikido, however original Hapkido was actually the exact same thing as Daito Ryu Yawara. The emphasis on circular motion allows for a free-flowing form of combat in which one technique can merge with the next and the direction of force can easily be changed by changing the axis of rotation.
Complete's very own words... I think.
great summary, however watch out because combat hapkido has sprung up in america and in those types of clubs the basis of hapkido (smaller, faster circular movements) are thrown straight out the window. I do a traditional form of hapkido and we end moves quickly and in as little moves as possible but then other styles will throw many strikes and locks around the body however to me this is ineffective as it takes way to long to do this and gives your oppenent to many chances.
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Many times strikes are used as an interupter or distraction so that the throw or lock is easier to apply. However, the strike must happen at the same time or very shortly after the bridge is established so that the opponent does not have a chance to recover.
I checked out the videos you posted, and they were a big help! Watching them brought two things to my attention. Firstly, I didn't know that weapons training was prevalent in hapkido. There was some kendo and bojutsu in the classical hapkido video; do you train a lot with weapons or is hapkido more about defending against them? I'm relatively ignorant of other styles, so anything you can clear up would be helpful.
Second - I may be wrong, please correct me if i am - isn't combat hapkido relatively new? I understand it that the guy in the youtube video actually developed combat hapkido especially for military situations, particularly urban assault. Is combat hapkido truly a derivative of traditional hapkido, or is it closer to being a different martial art entirely?
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I checked out the videos you posted, and they were a big help! Watching them brought two things to my attention. Firstly, I didn't know that weapons training was prevalent in hapkido. There was some kendo and bojutsu in the classical hapkido video; do you train a lot with weapons or is hapkido more about defending against them? I'm relatively ignorant of other styles, so anything you can clear up would be helpful.
Second - I may be wrong, please correct me if i am - isn't combat hapkido relatively new? I understand it that the guy in the youtube video actually developed combat hapkido especially for military situations, particularly urban assault. Is combat hapkido truly a derivative of traditional hapkido, or is it closer to being a different martial art entirely?[/quote]
we learn defence against weapons etc. but in terms of learning how to use weapons, we use basicly every weapon you can think of lol e.g. nunchuks, long stick, bokken, short stick etc. my masters view on weapons is if you can use them then use them as there is no point in picking something up and saying i cant use nunchuks because i am not following chinese martial arts. I think a lot of hapkido schools are like this aswell
secondly i think it was a style derived from hapkido initially but that guy has made it into a whole new style, many moves are very similar however personally form looking at it the technique doesnt seem to generate as much power thats all
Some more stuff that may be helpful. Check out www.hapkido.com.au , & "Sin Moo Hapkido" on youtube. While you're there, look up "Fight Quest Hapkido" 2 American MMA fighters who go to Korea to train with Hapkido Masters & spar with their top students after a week. Some good insight & some really funny stuff too!!!
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Some more stuff that may be helpful. Check out www.hapkido.com.au , & "Sin Moo Hapkido" on youtube. While you're there, look up "Fight Quest Hapkido" 2 American MMA fighters who go to Korea to train with Hapkido Masters & spar with their top students after a week. Some good insight & some really funny stuff too!!!
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I really like that episode of fight quest, it would of been a great chance to train in the mountains like one of them did
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I know i'm siwtchin styles but did anyone see the human weapon when they went to korea to train TKD. When it became fight time at the kukkiwon a little 140 lb korean K.O.'d the huge 280 lb Bill Duff with a spinning hook kick.
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I know i'm siwtchin styles but did anyone see the human weapon when they went to korea to train TKD. When it became fight time at the kukkiwon a little 140 lb korean K.O.'d the huge 280 lb Bill Duff with a spinning hook kick.
Damn sorry I missed it! Sounds like an awesome fight though.
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I like Both Fight Quest and the Human Weapon. Why were those shows canceled?
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- Choi, Hong Hi, Founder of Taekwon-Do
The black belt is not a mark or symbol of the end of the journey to ones mastery of the arts; rather it is the mark that one is done packing for their journey and may now take the first step in their true journey. This a journey which can not ever be complete, only traveled..."