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Old 09-18-2008, 08:20 PM   #1 (permalink)

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The Sulsa

I have heard mention of an elite warrior group known as the Sulsa (hopefully I haven't spelt that wrong). They supposably studied Hwarang Do and from what little I know, could equate to Korea's version of the Japanese Ninja. So were these guys real and if so, why don't they get anywhere near as much coverage as Ninja?
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That's right. You have the right spelling. Not sure why they didn't get as much coverage as ninjas but I think the whole thing about sulsas and ninjas is that they were supposed to be secret.

Anyway, I used to take HRD and you can find a bit more about sulsa on some of the old blackbelt magazines or at the official HRD site - Hwa Rang DoŽ World Headquarters
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I have heard mention of an elite warrior group known as the Sulsa (hopefully I haven't spelt that wrong). They supposably studied Hwarang Do and from what little I know, could equate to Korea's version of the Japanese Ninja. So were these guys real and if so, why don't they get anywhere near as much coverage as Ninja?
Because unlike the ninja, they were strickly an elite military unit. Also Japanese MA where first widely taught do to the expansion of modern MAs like modern karate and judo.
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That's right. You have the right spelling. Not sure why they didn't get as much coverage as ninjas but I think the whole thing about sulsas and ninjas is that they were supposed to be secret.
Anyway, I used to take HRD and you can find a bit more about sulsa on some of the old blackbelt magazines or at the official HRD site - Hwa Rang DoŽ World Headquarters
Whew. I was originally going to spell it Salsa which woulda been embarassing. Thanks for the link Complete. All these Korean martial arts are really "new" to me. I've only run into TKD and Hapkido.



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Because unlike the ninja, they were strickly an elite military unit. Also Japanese MA where first widely taught do to the expansion of modern MAs like modern karate and judo.
Don't fully understand what you mean. Do you mean Ninja were clans / families who provided service as mercenaries (like Gurkhas). While Sulsa were actually elite military units (like the Navy Seals).



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Don't fully understand what you mean. Do you mean Ninja were clans / families who provided service as mercenaries (like Gurkhas). While Sulsa were actually elite military units (like the Navy Seals)
Pretty much... Ninja is a pretty generic term, many people were called ninja who weren't historically. In fact the term ninja could mean a bandit, a ronin, a yamabushi and/or a samurai who under took "covert operations."

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The sulsa were selected from the best Hwarang warriors. They were Hwa Rang Do's special forces, majoring in infiltration, exfiltration, intelligence gathering, assassination and survival. They used wahtever means necessary to carry out there plan. Unlike the ancient Japanese ninja, however, the most important asset of the sulsa was there ideal of hwal bop, which encouraged the warrior to save lives, rather than take them. If one one were able to kill, one should be able to heal.
The sulsa played a significant role in the unification of the Korean peninsula. Legend has it that the king of Silla province had a dream of producing the greatest fighting machine in history. Consequently, hwarang do warriors were trained in all aspects of warfare, strategy, and combat. The very best warriors were subsequently selected and trained as sulsa. The chosen few possessed the characteristics of patience, loyalty, trust, courage, intelligence and cleverness.
Thanks to the sulsa's selfless devotion to the kingdom, Silla's neighboring provinces of Koguryo and Paekche were ultimately conquered, unifying Korea into one nation. Unfortunately, the unification also marked the decline of the sulsa. With Silla's enemys in check, there was little use for the kinghts of the night.
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O_O Why haven't I heard of the Sulsa? Does anyone know what sort of martial arts and weapons they used?
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Interesting info. I'd never heard of the sulsa either. Too bad. If Hollywood had gotten a hold of this earlier, we could have been treated to Enter the Sulsa and Revenge of the Sulsa instead of all those crappy Sho Kosugi ninja movies.


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The sulsa were selected from the best Hwarang warriors. They were Hwa Rang Do's special forces, majoring in infiltration, exfiltration, intelligence gathering, assassination and survival. They used wahtever means necessary to carry out there plan. Unlike the ancient Japanese ninja, however, the most important asset of the sulsa was there ideal of hwal bop, which encouraged the warrior to save lives, rather than take them. If one one were able to kill, one should be able to heal.
The sulsa played a significant role in the unification of the Korean peninsula. Legend has it that the king of Silla province had a dream of producing the greatest fighting machine in history. Consequently, hwarang do warriors were trained in all aspects of warfare, strategy, and combat. The very best warriors were subsequently selected and trained as sulsa. The chosen few possessed the characteristics of patience, loyalty, trust, courage, intelligence and cleverness.
Thanks to the sulsa's selfless devotion to the kingdom, Silla's neighboring provinces of Koguryo and Paekche were ultimately conquered, unifying Korea into one nation. Unfortunately, the unification also marked the decline of the sulsa. With Silla's enemys in check, there was little use for the kinghts of the night.
This is very similar to what I was told... guess they got it from Black Belt Mag..
I always thought it was interesting how the Korean and Japanese had similar warrior styles.
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One thing you have to be careful is the pronunciation of "Sulsa". With a slight difference, it sounds like "diarrhea" in Korean.

Sool sa is the secret warrior

Seol sa is diarrhea
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Interesting info. I'd never heard of the sulsa either. Too bad. If Hollywood had gotten a hold of this earlier, we could have been treated to Enter the Sulsa and Revenge of the Sulsa instead of all those crappy Sho Kosugi ninja movies.


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One thing you have to be careful is the pronunciation of "Sulsa". With a slight difference, it sounds like "diarrhea" in Korean.

Sool sa is the secret warrior

Seol sa is diarrhea


So, did their downfall come following the rise of Pepto Bismol?
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One thing you have to be careful is the pronunciation of "Sulsa". With a slight difference, it sounds like "diarrhea" in Korean.

Sool sa is the secret warrior

Seol sa is diarrhea
Haha!
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This is very similar to what I was told... guess they got it from Black Belt Mag..
I always thought it was interesting how the Korean and Japanese had similar warrior styles.
Actually it is the BB Magaize article, the HRD site has it on. Apperently theson of the currecnt grandmaster wrote the article.
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One thing you have to be careful is the pronunciation of "Sulsa". With a slight difference, it sounds like "diarrhea" in Korean.

Sool sa is the secret warrior

Seol sa is diarrhea
This is, without a doubt, the most useful piece of information I have received on this forum since I have been here.

+1 for you Complete. Getting to know how to say anything related to poo in another language is always good!
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I hope this forum has more informative stuff than just how to say poop in different languages...
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