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Japanese Martial ArtsDiscuss Japanese style Martial Arts here - Aikido, Iaido, Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Karate, Kenpo, Kendo, Kyudo, Kyudo, Ninjitsu, Sumo
I agree with everything that's been said here so far, so I'll try not to repeat any of that. (Key word is try )
I will from this point on refer to the people in question as "They."
They might be comparing Japanese jiu-jitsu to Americanized sport karate. If They were doing so, it would be similar to comparing fencing with a foil to swordfighting with a rapier in real combat. They are two different entities.
They might also be thinking in terms of tournament fighting (MMA stuff), where things are a little different. Karate has been somewhat hamstrung in any sort of Ultimate Fighting type combat, as the attacks that are meant to cause potentially fatal harm are not allowed. Further, the opponent has trained to be able to handle the pain of multiple strikes, so there is more of a chance that both combatants become tired. In any fighting sport, one sign that the combatants are tired is when they end up grappling. At this point, the jiu jitsu master has the advantage.
There is one problem that most jiu jitsu has that most karate (not counting tournament schools in either case) does not have. Jiu Jitsu tends to lack a spiritual aspect. Because it was supplementary to a samurai's learning, it did not need to be an entire Way. This is why you don't hear it called jiujitsudo.
Not necessarily bad (though it is considered so in my case), just different.
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Take this from an old guy who has trained in both. Both arts have their pros & cons. In a street fight situation tou don't want to start grappling with someone and go to the ground. Very rarely will you get a fair one-on-one fight. You have to be able to kick and punch in that situation. In MMA Ju-Jitsu wins it's share of fights through submission but the strikers win plenty by KO with both hands and feet. Best to train in both.
look at this thread i did a post with lots of my knowledge about the differences because i get annoyed when people get them mixed up , i know its not their fault: http://www.martial-forums.com/forums...7845#post27845
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