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Old 09-14-2007, 07:59 PM   #16 (permalink)

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No. That was the old samurai way that is a pre-mature version of Judo that was used to throw the opponent on his head and use the weight of his armor to crush him. Japanese Jiu Jitsu is similar to Brazillian.
it is the first time i knew that info
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Old 09-14-2007, 08:34 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Hello All - I have Absolutely NO Experience in the Art of "Japanese Jiujitsu", or Brazillian Jiujitsu" Haven't seen any Japanese Jiujitsu methods executed to my knowledge Have seen some Brazillian Jiujitsu, where they mostly try and get You on the Ground, for a Choke Hold, or a Submission Hold ect,.:hamme Now, Too clear the Air - I believe that Brazillian Jiujitsu Is A Very Good Martial Art, because it fits within the Modern World! Again, I know nothing of (JJJ)!
Question; What would be a Basic Defense method (technique)be for someone, that attacks with Multiple Fist Strikes, in Japanese, and Brazillian Jiujitsu?
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Old 09-14-2007, 11:13 PM   #18 (permalink)

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In order to get you to the ground they must first pass through punching distance. When they in punching distance knock them out/back.
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Hello All - I have to ask a question - What the Heck is (Japanese Jiujitsu)? I have studied the martial arts for over 45 years, and ive not heard of Japanese Jiujitsu

Chapel....Aikido, also has quiet a few Methods that will take an Attacker down Hard Enouph to cause a KO! I have used some of these methods as a Police Officer, and as a Body guard

I apologise in sounding loutish, but how can you be in martial arts so long without knowing many common arts out there as well as their origins?
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47MartialMan - The word, spelling of (Jiujitsu) Confused Me \Also I wasen't very good in History either When i was doing the Body Guard thing - All of us would get together and compare Self-defence methods - I ran into a Whole Bunch of Different Styles of the Art, and a lot of the techniques that they would come up with would Not Work In A Street Setting - Oh, they would work in the Dojo alright, but not on the Street Boy oh Boy did we have some bruised egos, Its quite a humbling expirence, when you find out what your Teacher has taught you doesent work
So, I gess that I became not impressed when someone would start telling of how Good their Particular Style was
The Proof is in the pudding
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Old 09-15-2007, 10:52 AM   #21 (permalink)

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47MartialMan - The word, spelling of (Jiujitsu) Confused Me \Also I wasen't very good in History either When i was doing the Body Guard thing - All of us would get together and compare Self-defence methods - I ran into a Whole Bunch of Different Styles of the Art, and a lot of the techniques that they would come up with would Not Work In A Street Setting - Oh, they would work in the Dojo alright, but not on the Street Boy oh Boy did we have some bruised egos, Its quite a humbling expirence, when you find out what your Teacher has taught you doesent work
So, I gess that I became not impressed when someone would start telling of how Good their Particular Style was
The Proof is in the pudding

why has none as yet refereed him onto this amazing thread? http://www.martial-forums.com/forums...jiu-jitsu.html have a look here tom
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Old 09-15-2007, 11:56 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Hello All -

JackG....Thank You Sir for guiding me to your post that describes what Japanese Jiu-jitsu is ect,.

Ya know, when I first started my Martial Art Training,(1957) there just were not many styles to chose from! I started in Judo, when in the Boy Scouts. Then a friend of my Father, an Old China Sailer took me under his wing and taught me what he called China-Hand, then while in the Marines, I was introduced too Aiki-Jujutsu, with Kyusho methods intertwined ect,. We did not have computers, so we could talk to other Martial Artist all around the World I think that this is GREAT to be able to talk to you all
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back on topic please...
we had already decided its a pointless thread.
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I do agree, it is pointless As far as what came first, or what style was generated from another, can be found with in the Search Engine But, I do want to thank those involved, because I did Learn a thing or Two
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Well sort of back on topic, but I'm throwing Hapkido into the mix. From my very limited understanding of Aikido it mostly involves going with the body as opposed to against it. Bending the arm with the elbow is classically an Aikido technique, bending it against the elbow is classically an Hapkido technique. Now, I am not saying that you can't put someone out with Aikido, it is probably petty easy actually, but I think you would be more likely to dislocate than to break with Aikido.

Atleast... that's how the two arts are organized in my mind. Please correct me if I am wrong.
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47MartialMan - The word, spelling of (Jiujitsu) Confused Me \Also I wasen't very good in History either When i was doing the Body Guard thing - All of us would get together and compare Self-defence methods - I ran into a Whole Bunch of Different Styles of the Art, and a lot of the techniques that they would come up with would Not Work In A Street Setting - Oh, they would work in the Dojo alright, but not on the Street Boy oh Boy did we have some bruised egos, Its quite a humbling expirence, when you find out what your Teacher has taught you doesent work
So, I gess that I became not impressed when someone would start telling of how Good their Particular Style was
The Proof is in the pudding
Thanks for your better explained post. I wasnt trying to be coy with you.

You are quite right that many schools dont prepare one for many experiences.

One of my teachers made us submit martial art thesis(s) for each level from brown and up. We were required to know about other martial arts.

All of these "This vs That" are seemingly "pointless threeads" started by a juvenile mindset.

However, I dont think threads and posts are completely "pointless", as they open up discussions, even if they go off-topic.
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Chapel...I do not know anything about Hapkido vs. Aikido! Maybe 47MartialMan, can help in that regard!

In my humble opinion, there probably real close to the same principles!?

The thing is, now days, there are several styles of Aikido. When Aikido was Born in 1942; All of, well most of the Kyusho was removed from the style of Aikido; For example in Aiki-jujutsu, there is a Method (technique) named "Ikkyo", which is an Arm-Bar.
And, if You have any trouble using thes method on some one that might be just too Strong, of just too Big; We would use one of Two Pressure Points (TH-11) or (TH-12), to assist in the execution of this method! Whare Modern Aikido does not
Also, when it comes to either causing a Dislocation, or a Break, is just a matter of what MY INTENT Would Be
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Thanks for your better explained post. I wasnt trying to be coy with you.

You are quite right that many schools dont prepare one for many experiences.

One of my teachers made us submit martial art thesis(s) for each level from brown and up. We were required to know about other martial arts.

All of these "This vs That" are seemingly "pointless threeads" started by a juvenile mindset.

However, I dont think threads and posts are completely "pointless", as they open up discussions, even if they go off-topic.
i agree with mr Tom and mr Martialman actually u see very schools that teach u nothing but fancy movies .
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Well sort of back on topic, but I'm throwing Hapkido into the mix. From my very limited understanding of Aikido it mostly involves going with the body as opposed to against it. Bending the arm with the elbow is classically an Aikido technique, bending it against the elbow is classically an Hapkido technique. Now, I am not saying that you can't put someone out with Aikido, it is probably petty easy actually, but I think you would be more likely to dislocate than to break with Aikido.

Atleast... that's how the two arts are organized in my mind. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Yeah, that's true. It's much easier to dislocate a joint than actually breaking a bone. This is why you don't have to be especially strong in Aikido.
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