fighting equipment
Custom Search
 

 

 

 


Go Back   Martial Arts Forums > Martial Arts Styles > Japanese Martial Arts

Notices

Japanese Martial Arts Discuss Japanese style Martial Arts here - Aikido, Iaido, Jiu Jitsu, Judo, Karate, Kenpo, Kendo, Kyudo, Kyudo, Ninjitsu, Sumo


Sponsors
Martial Arts Weapons
Broad Sword
Wooden Broad Sword
$18.95
And see the rest of our Martial Arts Weapons
at MartialArtsSupplies.com

Top 50 Martial Arts Topsites List

myspace
Reply
Old 08-08-2008, 10:12 AM   #46 (permalink)

Black Belt II
 
Jason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London
Styles: Judo
Posts: 1,640
Home Country:
Jason is a jewel in the rough



Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton View Post
Well , actually it is Jujutsu and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I don't think it's necessary to call it "Japanese Ju-jutsu". Jujutsu is already a Japanese thing. It would be like saying "Japanese Karate"


So, I definitely agree with you.
I think it's almost gotten to the point where if you say Jujutsu/ Jiu-Jutsu/ Jiu-Jitsu it's like saying just wrestling, you need to specify the type Greco-Roman, Freestyle, or Olympic. In the early UFCs they mentioned only Jiu-jutsu for a BJJ fighter, not sure about now though.

And is there a difference between Okinawan and Japanese Karate? Or is that through the styles (Kyokushin/ Wado Ryu etc.)?
__________________
'Laugh and grow fat.'
Jason is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 11:30 AM   #47 (permalink)

Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Styles: Aikikai Aikido,Kendo
Posts: 115
Home Country:
Norton will become famous soon enough



Quote:
Originally Posted by GoddeBPM View Post
I think it's almost gotten to the point where if you say Jujutsu/ Jiu-Jutsu/ Jiu-Jitsu it's like saying just wrestling, you need to specify the type Greco-Roman, Freestyle, or Olympic. In the early UFCs they mentioned only Jiu-jutsu for a BJJ fighter, not sure about now though.

And is there a difference between Okinawan and Japanese Karate? Or is that through the styles (Kyokushin/ Wado Ryu etc.)?


I know that the Okinawan Karate is more intense(or that's what heard) and they do longer training sessions.(in Okinawa of course. I don't think the training of Okinawan Karate outside of Okinawa is like that. )



And I think that calling BJJ just "jiu-jitsu" is wrong, cause people don't notice a difference between saying jujutsu and jiujitsu, and they think that the ground fighting they see is jujutsu.I actually think that jujutsu is the most "optimal" fighting art, so I don't like seeing it being mispresented.
Norton is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 11:42 AM   #48 (permalink)

Black Belt II
 
Jason's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: London
Styles: Judo
Posts: 1,640
Home Country:
Jason is a jewel in the rough



Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton View Post
I know that the Okinawan Karate is more intense(or that's what heard) and they do longer training sessions.(in Okinawa of course. I don't think the training of Okinawan Karate outside of Okinawa is like that. )



And I think that calling BJJ just "jiu-jitsu" is wrong, cause people don't notice a difference between saying jujutsu and jiujitsu, and they think that the ground fighting they see is jujutsu.I actually think that jujutsu is the most "optimal" fighting art, so I don't like seeing it being mispresented.
Hmm I get what you mean, I don't really like Judo being followed by 'jutsu' even though it does derive from it (No offence. ). But I guess that's why it needs to be known as Jujutsu, in the perfect world, the differences in names would be emphasized.
__________________
'Laugh and grow fat.'
Jason is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-08-2008, 11:55 AM   #49 (permalink)

Blue Belt
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Styles: Aikikai Aikido,Kendo
Posts: 115
Home Country:
Norton will become famous soon enough



Quote:
Originally Posted by GoddeBPM View Post
Hmm I get what you mean, I don't really like Judo being followed by 'jutsu' even though it does derive from it (No offence. ). But I guess that's why it needs to be known as Jujutsu, in the perfect world, the differences in names would be emphasized.


In the perfect world, punching would break walls
Norton is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 08:22 AM   #50 (permalink)

Master III
 
47MartialMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,702
Home Country:
47MartialMan is just really nice47MartialMan is just really nice



Quote:
Originally Posted by GoddeBPM View Post
I think it's almost gotten to the point where if you say Jujutsu/ Jiu-Jutsu/ Jiu-Jitsu it's like saying just wrestling, you need to specify the type Greco-Roman, Freestyle, or Olympic. In the early UFCs they mentioned only Jiu-jutsu for a BJJ fighter, not sure about now though.

And is there a difference between Okinawan and Japanese Karate? Or is that through the styles (Kyokushin/ Wado Ryu etc.)?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Norton View Post
Well , actually it is Jujutsu and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. I don't think it's necessary to call it "Japanese Ju-jutsu". Jujutsu is already a Japanese thing. It would be like saying "Japanese Karate"


So, I definitely agree with you.

See, the term is a Japanese one, so making a distinction by adding another name, particularly to a Japanese name, seems to relate it to a Japanese art.

It is like saying "American Karate"

As for the wrestling, the English word doesnt dictate in a direct sense, a country like the word Jiu Jitsu, which is clearly a Japanese term with a Japanese translation.
__________________
What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.

That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?

Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
47MartialMan is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 09:12 AM   #51 (permalink)

Black Belt II
 
Gambatte Karate's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Tampa, Fl
Styles: Shu Do Kan KarateDo
Posts: 1,110
Home Country:
Gambatte Karate is just really niceGambatte Karate is just really nice



Quote:
Originally Posted by 47MartialMan View Post

It is like saying "American Karate"
Kinda like this guy here in Florida? Spivey Karate This guy...I tell you...He REALLY pisses me off. He promoted HIMSELF to his rank. I've been to his school, and what they teach is a watered down form of Chito Ryu, but he calls it "American Open Style Karate".
__________________
My school

Quote:
Originally Posted by Them's Fighting Words View Post
Oh and it's not only the tip that'll hurt.
WTF???
Gambatte Karate is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 05:20 PM   #52 (permalink)

Member of the Month
 
Draven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,850
Home Country:
Draven is just really niceDraven is just really niceDraven is just really nice



Well from my understanding jujitsu has several different variations and names but most incompise all ranges of combat. Aikido is more so a stand-up art. I don't think there is much comparision unless you go into individual styles and systems.
__________________
My Personal Mantra:
Where I walk, I walk alone...
Given unto the winds, I am free...
And yet a slave to my own soul...

www.witchhunterpublishing.com
Draven is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 05:04 PM   #53 (permalink)

Master III
 
47MartialMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 10,702
Home Country:
47MartialMan is just really nice47MartialMan is just really nice



Quote:
Originally Posted by Gambatte Karate View Post
Kinda like this guy here in Florida? Spivey Karate This guy...I tell you...He REALLY pisses me off. He promoted HIMSELF to his rank. I've been to his school, and what they teach is a watered down form of Chito Ryu, but he calls it "American Open Style Karate".
Yeah, but this has been going on for decades in my lifetime....nothing new but the faces and the names on the same scams
__________________
What do I know? Since I didn't post my styles or experience, I have no experience, no knowledge, no say.

That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?

Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
47MartialMan is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:48 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0