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Well this sure has lead to some interesting comments. Sake Sipper you seem to have taken some kind of offence and have become rather obnoxious and closed minded to other prospectives other than you own. Might I ask why?
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Well this sure has lead to some interesting comments. Sake Sipper you seem to have taken some kind of offence and have become rather obnoxious and closed minded to other prospectives other than you own. Might I ask why?
I might be misreading this, but you are saying that I think the same thing both real and fake schools think?????? You say my argument is shared, is why I say this.
Thing is I've noticed allot of people forget/don't know that Seiko Fujita (the last Grandmaster of Koga Ryu Ninjutsu) was an Intelligence Officer for the Japanese Navy during the shino wars. He was recruited to teach aspects of Ninjutsu, Jujutsu and Kenpo to Japanese Commandos and Espionage Agents. There are several clear lines of succession between Fujita's post as instructor and several former soldiers whom he trained.
So while allot of LARPers look at Fuedual Japanese History, the actual history of modern Japan clearly states that 1) those trained at the Nakano School did refer to themselves as "ninja" and 2) the military higher did refer to these men often as "ninja."
So while allot of people consider a ninjutsu ryu as "fake" unless it has a long tradition to the fuedual era of Japan, the very real members of Nakano School can both trace itself to Fuedual Japan and to Fujita's modernization of the Wada-Ha System into the Sato Ryu system. Basically a reference to Mr. Katawashi who replaced Seiko Fujita, Don Dreguer, Ashida Kim, Hatsumi, Haha Long and the British SAS
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Where I walk, I walk alone...
Given unto the winds, I am free...
And yet a slave to my own soul...
Thing is I've noticed allot of people forget/don't know that Seiko Fujita (the last Grandmaster of Koga Ryu Ninjutsu) was an Intelligence Officer for the Japanese Navy during the shino wars. He was recruited to teach aspects of Ninjutsu, Jujutsu and Kenpo to Japanese Commandos and Espionage Agents. There are several clear lines of succession between Fujita's post as instructor and several former soldiers whom he trained.
So while allot of LARPers look at Fuedual Japanese History, the actual history of modern Japan clearly states that 1) those trained at the Nakano School did refer to themselves as "ninja" and 2) the military higher did refer to these men often as "ninja."
So while allot of people consider a ninjutsu ryu as "fake" unless it has a long tradition to the fuedual era of Japan, the very real members of Nakano School can both trace itself to Fuedual Japan and to Fujita's modernization of the Wada-Ha System into the Sato Ryu system. Basically a reference to Mr. Katawashi who replaced Seiko Fujita, Don Dreguer, Ashida Kim, Hatsumi, Haha Long and the British SAS
Yes, ninja in fuedual Japan had guns before their common samurai/ashigarusha counterparts. In many cases they were just bamboo cannons that was used only once. So one must assume the "modern ninja" trains to use firearms, snipering and so one. But, hey ninja don't exist and if they did we'd call them terrorists and invade their country for oil...
FYI- I thought the code of the modern samurai was pretty cool, more or less something to inspire younger martial artists
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My Personal Mantra:
Where I walk, I walk alone...
Given unto the winds, I am free...
And yet a slave to my own soul...
Yes, ninja in fuedual Japan had guns before their common samurai/ashigarusha counterparts. In many cases they were just bamboo cannons that was used only once. So one must assume the "modern ninja" trains to use firearms, snipering and so one. But, hey ninja don't exist and if they did we'd call them terrorists and invade their country for oil...
FYI- I thought the code of the modern samurai was pretty cool, more or less something to inspire younger martial artists
Are ninjas people who practise ninjitsu?
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