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01-25-2008, 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan  What I have been saying for a long time. The philosophy of it is not the complete practice and/or study. | and you are a smart man 
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01-25-2008, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gbells and you are a smart man | Not really smart. Just dare to look at all of the persepctives.
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01-26-2008, 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by gbells there is no way in haities that you can learn jkd without the assistance of an instructor. there are to many intangibles that can not be obtained through books,magazines or articles!!!! | Metacognition and the thought of the pupil is FAR more important than any instructor. The instuctor is a guide who leads you to the water to drink. It is up to you to drink - study the nucleus, then dissolve it when you liberate yourselve from the structure of that nucleus.
The instructor supplies the environment we need to test fighting in a realistic environment so that we are not swimming on dry land. To swim you get into water. To drive, we get behind the wheel of a car- to learn martial arts, we must fight.
It is an often forgotten fact that Bruce Lee did not agree with schools either. "I've disbanded all the schools of Jeet Kune Do because it is very easy for a member to come in and take the agenda as "the truth" and the schedule as "the Way"". See my signature as to why this is the case. He had anicipated the effect of the Law of Institutionalisation.
Hence, Lee had already realised the problems of people who focus upon the need for an instructor of Jeet Kune Do than to realise that JKD cannot be found in any human being - it is found in realities of fighting.
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"Tradition comes from when a master realises a truth, then teaches it to others; his source was the world around him. The tradition begins when students follow the doctrine but fail to see the truth it teaches. Martial Arts, like religion, are now the gospel.
So I assert; Seek not to follow in the footsteps of great men, but seek that which they themselves had sought."
Magister, on the Eskirmological Law of Institutionalisation
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01-26-2008, 08:12 AM
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Home Country: | Proper instruction lays the foundation upon which you can build later. If that instruction is faulty then anything built upon it will be shaky. | |
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01-26-2008, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by WC_Lun Proper instruction lays the foundation upon which you can build later. If that instruction is faulty then anything built upon it will be shaky. | ^^^^^ right on bro
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01-26-2008, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Magister Metacognition and the thought of the pupil is FAR more important than any instructor. The instuctor is a guide who leads you to the water to drink. It is up to you to drink - study the nucleus, then dissolve it when you liberate yourselve from the structure of that nucleus.
The instructor supplies the environment we need to test fighting in a realistic environment so that we are not swimming on dry land. To swim you get into water. To drive, we get behind the wheel of a car- to learn martial arts, we must fight.
It is an often forgotten fact that Bruce Lee did not agree with schools either. "I've disbanded all the schools of Jeet Kune Do because it is very easy for a member to come in and take the agenda as "the truth" and the schedule as "the Way"". See my signature as to why this is the case. He had anicipated the effect of the Law of Institutionalisation.
Hence, Lee had already realised the problems of people who focus upon the need for an instructor of Jeet Kune Do than to realise that JKD cannot be found in any human being - it is found in realities of fighting. |
But, of course, he was taught my living beings, studies through interaction with living human beings.
Therefore, he didnt state to not train from a instructor, but not getting affixed to that one in particular as gospel.
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01-26-2008, 06:18 PM
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Home Country: | I think a lot of people miss that he also said one should have a solid traditional base. Too many conveniently forget that. | |
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01-26-2008, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WC_Lun I think a lot of people miss that he also said one should have a solid traditional base. Too many conveniently forget that. | Like he had in Wu Style Tai Chi Chuan from his father and Wing Chun.
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01-26-2008, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan Like he had in Wu Style Tai Chi Chuan from his father and Wing Chun. | and he was Hong Kong's National Dance Champion
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01-26-2008, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gbells and he was Hong Kong's National Dance Champion | Is it he reason foir his skipping and cat calls? 
Your av is freaking me out.
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01-26-2008, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 47MartialMan Is it he reason foir his skipping and cat calls?
Your av is freaking me out. | Noooooooo, those are due to the fact that his jock strap was to small
from my favorite movie
"cast ye out my devil child"
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01-26-2008, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by gbells Noooooooo, those are due to the fact that his jock strap was to small
from my favorite movie
"cast ye out my devil child" | I have other movies besides that one.
Upon it first release, made a lot of people go back to church.
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