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When your grappling in alot of moves your opponent is open to bite you, while in sparring this is not aloud in self defense on the streets what you going to do?
Not saying the style is completely useless just saying i have found a major downside to alot of the grappling moves.
You're right.
Of course, any striking based combat has the weakness of leaving your opponent free to strike back. I'll take being bitten over getting kneed in the groin or punched in the nose, but that's just me. (I know I can handle being bitten, and I also know I can't handle a solid hit to the chest, so this kind of sets my own preference.)
Aside from that, I'd prefer binding someone up with a joint lock over beating the tar out of them for personal, spiritual preferences.
Bruce Lee was once asked by a wrestler what he would do if he was completely pinned by a wrestling move and Bruce Lee said "I would bite you of course"
its easy to say what you would do when your not in the situation.
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I actually have been in the situation where I was completely pinned and I bit my opponent and he showed me the mark 3 weeks later...
but true enough thats just a mark if I had kneed him in the stomach like I had in a previous fight he would have been down for 5 minutes and suspected internal bleeding, so the choice is obvious, but getting bitten isn't fun either
they are in a much better position to harm you while your trying that. plus by that time in the fight most people are tired and bitting could result in you getting killed.
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Leisure may not be an option for this indefatigable human instrument of martial arts. It is the Tao, sort to speak passably, that he his set on such credenda, to which he may not abdicate. It is the WAY, the Do, of what certitude he has.
I'll take being bitten over getting kneed in the groin or punched in the nose, but that's just me. (I know I can handle being bitten, and I also know I can't handle a solid hit to the chest, so this kind of sets my own preference.)
Ever got bitten on the inside of the thigh? Bet you cant take it. Severe Pain is severe pain.
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Originally Posted by Jalek Moye
its easy to say what you would do when your not in the situation.
I can say. There was a chap who came into our school and wanted to spar before sigining. He statedment was that if anyone could get out of any of his holds, he would join. (Yes, he was a JJ guy)
To show his boast, when suggested that he take on one of my students, he pointed to me and said "You're the Instructor, you're the one that has the most skill. I'll rather go against you.
He sprawled and proceeded with a triangle leg hold...his thigh was there by my mouth and....
boy did he let go fast.
He said "What kind of martial artist bites?"
I replied "The one that doesnt want to be pinned."
Then there was the Sambo practitoner. His moves were different to whereas he didnt allow his body parts to make contact near the mouth. He put me in a strangle hold so fast and with precision, I had to tap out. He joined and taught some good tactics that I greatfully absorbed. He was modest and sincere.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
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Biting, yep thats right
When your grappling in alot of moves your opponent is open to bite you, while in sparring this is not aloud in self defense on the streets what you going to do?
Not saying the style is completely useless just saying i have found a major downside to alot of the grappling moves.
thou art an blatant Blasphemer againt thee doctrine of grappling
thou doth surely invoke sins with thine foul type-font atrocities ....repenteth of thine sinful transgressions against grapplin or suffer to be Bonked on the noggin with the divine Mjolnir Uru Hammer of Thor
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thou art an blatant Blasphemer againt thee doctrine of grappling
thou doth surely invoke sins with thine foul type-font atrocities ....repenteth of thine sinful transgressions against grapplin or suffer to be Bonked on the noggin with the divine Mjolnir Uru Hammer of Thor
(Genuflecting with obsequious) Oh sire, I shall not commit falsehoods to thou devine grappling and worship the ground in ground fighting. Ye, though I am afraid in the shadow of doubt, I fear no grappler.
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That post before mine, was that for post counting? How about the one after?
Hey, my post count has the same palaverment tone as anyone elses'
Ever got bitten on the inside of the thigh? Bet you cant take it. Severe Pain is severe pain.
Nope.
I also wouldn't put anybody in any sort of lock that involved their head or neck and my legs.
I disagree that severe pain is severe pain. There are different kinds of pain. For example, the pain of getting thumped in the center of the chest isn't so much painful as overwhelming. The pain of a cut is extremely focused. The pain of smacking both of your knees into solid ceramic tiling with the full force of your weight is nauseating. I could go on. I have felt pain of the last two, as well as the bite, that I would rate as a 6-7 out of ten. The bite, I was capable of ignoring the pain for a minute or so. It was distracting, but not overwhelming. The cut didn't even distract me until I didn't have anything more important to worry about. The knees, I could barely set the pans that I held in both hands aside before I stumbled to a chair.
By contrast, I'd rate the pain of the worst thump to the chest as a 4, if that, yet I was unable to even move from that.
A combination of body part being injured and type of injury affects how immediately distracting a certain type of pain might be. The body is wired to react to pain in certain places very severely, even if the pain itself isn't so intense.
Last edited by sirdarksol; 04-12-2007 at 09:32 AM.
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