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Old 06-16-2007, 02:36 PM   #1 (permalink)

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I started training Japanese jiu jitsu about 4 months ago with the sole aim of learning effective street self defence. However, I am not convinced that what I have learnt/am still learning would be effective in a real life situation. I am impressed with most of the techniques, however, as we do not really practice against a genuinely resisting opponent I am not confident I would be able to apply the techniques in real life. I am considering switching to BJJ, Judo or wing chun. What do you think? Would these arts be more effective? Perhaps I have lost faith in JJJ too soon and should just stick with a bit longer? I dont like the idea of wasting time training in an ineffective system though.

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Old 06-16-2007, 03:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It depends, its important to have faith in what you are doing, however I speak from personal experience when I say jujitsu does work in street defense, I know its difficult to practice without a resisting opponent but in the dojo your opponent knows whats coming, on the street the attacker does not, so you actually have the edge.

However if you do not like the art then you should try to find another, but it is always good to stick with it, considering youve only been going 4 months give it some time to develop.

Im not sure about the judo and BJJ but the wing chun is similar to JJJ in terms of practising without resistance, although ultimately it depends on the sifu/sensai but if its reisitance and realism your after I wouldn't advise wing chun, its not as great as people make it sound especially for street defence.


Ultimately its your chioce, if something doesnt feel right or comfortable when you go to your JJJ classes then check out other places near you, but dont leave because you think its impractical for street defense because its actually quite effective (Ive defended myself with it before.. did the job)
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Old 06-16-2007, 04:11 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Theres a big difference in training and reacting on the street. Everybody is comfortable and aware in the class, the right place to condition your technique. The street is where all that training comes out in an instant and you realize the strength in the technique and the advantage of surprise.
Maybe you could bring it up to your instructor or classmates who been in it longer. Four months is not very long, but if you truly don't care for it then visit some other schools. It doesn't hurt to look. Let us know how it goes.
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Old 06-16-2007, 04:27 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Like what's been said above muggers can't breakfall and they don't where locks are gonna take them . Jitsu works , I know.

what makes you think you wouldn't be able to use these techniques on the street , keep in mind you have only been doing it for 4 months - do you think any of the techniques are effective i.e if your sensei used them do you think they would work or is it just that you wouldn't be able to?
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All of the advice that can be given by me has already been said, so just consider this post a carbon copy of what has been said.

Other than that, welcome to the forum and let us know how things turn out.
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Its only been 4 months. We can not become masters over night. Keep training and you will feel more and more comfortable after each class. Let your instructor know about concerns. So, he can help you. Welcome to Crossland
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It's not the art but, it's how it is trained. In BJJ and Judo you will go live so you will be able to use what you have learned at full speed with a fully resisting partner. I'd say take a free class and see what you think.
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Im not sure about the judo and BJJ but the wing chun is similar to JJJ in terms of practising without resistance, although ultimately it depends on the sifu/sensai but if its reisitance and realism your after I wouldn't advise wing chun, its not as great as people make it sound especially for street defence.
Speaking from my own experience, Wing Chun is good for street self defense. There are people who teach crappy wing chun, just like any other art. However, if its the real stuff, its designed for street use.

To the OP, you must practice against resisting opponents, no matter what the art or you'll never be fully competant in what you do. JJJ is as good as anything else, IF the training is there.
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