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Old 08-29-2007, 09:31 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Ok this was supposed to be my 500th post!

This is my Japanese Jiu-Jitsu hopefully sticky

Alot of people Don't know alot about Japanese Jiu-jitsu other than what they have read on wiki or have mismatched it with BJJ a, pet hate of mine but nevermind. Japanese Jiu-jitsu or ju-jitsu , Literally, Jiu Jitsu is the technique or art (jitsu) of suppleness, flexibility and gentleness. Judo founder Jigoro Kano traced the art’s emergence to the period between 1600 and 1650. In its golden age, late 17th to mid 19th century, more than 700 jujitsu systems appeared in Japan.

Among those mentioned prominently in martial arts chronicles are: Tenjin-Shinyo-ryu, Takenouchi ryu, Sousui****su ryu, the Kito ryu (relevant to us) and the Sekiguchi-ryu. Many other ancient and reputable schools, such as the Yagyu-Shingan ryu or the Date clan and the Juki ryu or Sawa Dochi, are listed within the doctrine of jujitsu.
Jiu-Jitsu was the unarmed combat art of the samurai, the reason for Jitsu close combat style was because if the samurai were at a longer range they would be using their katanas, slighlty closer they would be using tantos - knives , this is another reason why jitsu has so many weapon defences and disarms due to it was made on the the battlefield.This is why throwing became so effective because if you can get your enemy on the ground you cam stab him sorry to be crude for the lack of a better expression.
So what is Jitsu made up of I hear you ask well its around 40% throws similiar to those you see in judo but I will clear that up later 30% locks like Aikido but a rough with more contact and physical strength involved 10% breakfalling the art of not being turned into a cripple whilst being thrown and 10% groundwork similar to that of bjj but a mix of it and judo style hold.
Although Jujitsu techniques are initially learned individually, in a static position, the essence of Jujitsu is the ability to move from technique to another, or a second or even a third as needed - and as quickly and as often as necessary to control an attacker. Since each system emphasises only a few major techniques (or waza), the principle behind each technique can be applied in numerous situations, not just in the manner in which it is learned in a certain technique. Each technique, in fact, is designed to illustrate and teach a specific principle.
Arts and there differences to Japanese Jitsu.
Judo: Judos founder was an student of jiu-jitsu a well Educated main named Jigoro Kano, the main differnces between Jitsu and judo is whenever a jitsuka (jiu jitsu student) throws he aim to stay on his feet at all times unlike judo where like may fall into a ground hold, another point is that Judoka (judo fighter) are taught the majority of their throws from being grabbed and how to throw someone using there gi (the white pyjamas), whereas In Jitsu we learn the majority of our throws from punches,kicks, and weapon attacks.
BJJ: Yes as many people on this forum know I have a pet hate for people mixing the two up so I'm borrowing this from one of my earlier posts Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Came from Japanese Jiu Jitsu it was taught to the gracie sons by japanese martial artist whom was helped by helio gracie. BJJ is 80-90% groundwork with some takedowns not throws i.e the kind you see in Judo which also originated for Japanese Jiu -Jitsu.
a Common mistake is Brazilain Jiu-Jitsu did not originate from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu the Main Difference is the lack of stand up fighting in BJJ although Japanese Jiu jitsu has groundwork depending on the school it is not the focus nor should be (traditionally) most Japanese Jiu Jitsu Fighter consider themselves standup fighters.
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Old 08-29-2007, 09:58 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Good post. Stick!!

Because of such popularity with Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, people tend to forget the actual origin from the Japanese Jiu Jitsu.
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Old 08-29-2007, 10:02 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Superb post, plus rep. Complete beat me to the sticky
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Old 08-29-2007, 02:16 PM   #5 (permalink)

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good post. a common misperception is that BJJ came from Jujutsu, but the Master .....uhh..Maeda? who taught Carlos and Helio Gracie was actually Judo...so BJJ is from Judo but they started calling it jujitsu
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Very nice 500th post. Glad to see that the tradition of doing a huge post at milestones is still alive and well. Grats on your black belt.
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good post. a common misperception is that BJJ came from Jujutsu, but the Master .....uhh..Maeda? who taught Carlos and Helio Gracie was actually Judo...so BJJ is from Judo but they started calling it jujitsu
I didn't know that Otávio Mitsuyo Maeda was infact judoka they probaly trace it back to the fact judo came from Jiu-jitsu and since judo is bigger they though Brazilian Jiu Jitsu sounded better the Brazilian Judo, - But there are records of him being a decorated jiu-jitsu fighter and being trained and skilled in the art , maybe he told the gracies he was teaching them jitsu but he was more highly ranked in Judo
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Japanese Jiu-jitsu or ju-jitsu ,

or better yet, Jujutsu...
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Well put. The japanese ju jutsu is deadly and street practical. Although i like practising BJJ it cant possibly think that its all thats needed to know to effectivly defend oneself on the street.
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Very informative post. I only recently began studying jujitsu, and I love it. Extremely practical art for self defense.
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Hey JackG! I just spoke with souldrum71 and he assured me that he gave you Positive rep NOT bad!! Is there a way to see who gave it? Also, I would to say that I thought the post was very informative as well! +rep!!
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Hey JackG! I just spoke with souldrum71 and he assured me that he gave you Positive rep NOT bad!! Is there a way to see who gave it? Also, I would to say that I thought the post was very informative as well! +rep!!
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I M LEARNING JAPANESE JUJITSU AND I FIND IT RIDICULOUS WHEN PEOPLECONFUSE IT WITH BRAZILIAN JUJITSU OR JUDO...

The worst part is, in India most of the people don't know what jujitsu is... they just go what's that?? all they know is karate

I find it disheartening to see that such an amazing art is ridiculed by people
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