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Old 12-18-2007, 02:09 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Could someone explain to me.....

These different divisions of japanese kenjutsu?I want to
know the strenghts,weaknesses and philosophy of these arts.

Yagyu Shinkage Ryu
Nittin Ichi Ryu
Tachimi Ryu
Kage Ryu

Oh, and if anyone knows of any school in the U.S., could you let me know. Thanks. A legitamate school, not a mcdojo.
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These different divisions of japanese kenjutsu?I want to
know the strenghts,weaknesses and philosophy of these arts.

Yagyu Shinkage Ryu
Nittin Ichi Ryu
Tachimi Ryu
Kage Ryu

Oh, and if anyone knows of any school in the U.S., could you let me know. Thanks. A legitamate school, not a mcdojo.
I haven't a clue. Sorry. They sound interesting
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Old 12-18-2007, 04:31 PM   #3 (permalink)

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I haven't a clue. Sorry. They sound interesting
Do you know of anyone who does?
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These different divisions of japanese kenjutsu?I want to
know the strenghts,weaknesses and philosophy of these arts.

Yagyu Shinkage Ryu
Nittin Ichi Ryu
Tachimi Ryu
Kage Ryu

Oh, and if anyone knows of any school in the U.S., could you let me know. Thanks. A legitamate school, not a mcdojo.
Yagyu Shinkage is one of the more common types of Kenjutsu, at least in America. This can be attributed in large part to David Lowry, who learned from a Japanese master of the style. Yagyu was well known for two techniques, the no sword technique, in which a master could defeat an armed opponent by taking his weapon from him, and the arrow cutting technique, which is precisely what it sounds like. Find David Lowry's website and look for affiliate dojos. I would trust any dojo supported by Lowry-sensei, despite never having met the man.

Nitten Ichi Ryu is the style of kenjutsu created by Miyamoto Musashi. It is one of the few styles that mainly uses two swords. Musashi was likely naturally ambidextrous, and aside from that, a prodigy. The style still has merit for those who are neither, though it is difficult to achieve the mastery that he so casually speaks of in Book of Five Rings. There are very few schools of Nitten Ichi Ryu. If you find one, try to make sure it is connected to the Japanese organization and you should be good.

I'm afraid I've never heard of Tachimi Ryu, and while I have heard of Kage Ryu, I know nothing about it.

In the weapons section (I think it might even be stickied) there is a post of mine giving an idea of what to look for in a weapons dojo. There are ideas in there to help you avoid McDojos when picking a weapons program.

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Nitten Ichi Ryu is the style of kenjutsu created by Miyamoto Musashi. It is one of the few styles that mainly uses two swords. Musashi was likely naturally ambidextrous, and aside from that, a prodigy. The style still has merit for those who are neither, though it is difficult to achieve the mastery that he so casually speaks of in Book of Five Rings. There are very few schools of Nitten Ichi Ryu. If you find one, try to make sure it is connected to the Japanese organization and you should be good.

I'm afraid I've never heard of Tachimi Ryu, and while I have heard of Kage Ryu, I know nothing about it.

In the weapons section (I think it might even be stickied) there is a post of mine giving an idea of what to look for in a weapons dojo. There are ideas in there to help you avoid McDojos when picking a weapons program.

Good luck.

I'll take a look into that weapon section,thanks.

so are you saying its hard to become ambidextrous?Because
I'm actually Ambidextrous.The only thing i can't do with my
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so are you saying its hard to become ambidextrous?Because
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No, what I was saying is that I believe that Musashi was naturally ambidextrous. In such people, there is little difference between right and left hand (I've seen one guy who can write with both hands, two separate texts, at the same time). More importantly, some can do two different things with little loss of concentration. Our brains have limited capacity for focus. Some people can focus on both hands at the same time and still be nearly as competent as if they were using only one hand. This would make Nitten Ichi Ryu far easier to grasp than it would take a person who favors one hand over the other.
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No, what I was saying is that I believe that Musashi was naturally ambidextrous. In such people, there is little difference between right and left hand (I've seen one guy who can write with both hands, two separate texts, at the same time). More importantly, some can do two different things with little loss of concentration. Our brains have limited capacity for focus. Some people can focus on both hands at the same time and still be nearly as competent as if they were using only one hand. This would make Nitten Ichi Ryu far easier to grasp than it would take a person who favors one hand over the other.
Oh I see.Well thanks for bringing it up.Oe thing that worried about being ambidextrous,is that if I tried two techniques,my brain will be split in two.In both ways.
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This is way off topic, but related in a round about way.

It is interesting that you make reference to your brain being split in two ways. The only accounts of people who could concentrate on two things at once that I am aware of are people who have suffered massive head trauma and have actually had the two halves of their brain separated. In one case, a man had been stabbed with a knife through the skull. After miraculously surviving he went to see a neurologist (for good reason). Interestingly, it was found that the sides of his brain no longer communicated properly. For example, they showed him a picture of a face created by various fruit. When he looked at the picture through his right eye (corresponding to the left part of the brain) he only saw the face. With his left eye, he only saw the fruit.

I wonder if a similar dissociation would be apparent in skilled practitioners with 2-swords. (See I related it eventually )
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