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Old 07-20-2007, 10:36 AM   #31 (permalink)

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Bojutsu is part of the karate tradition. I get what you're saying, though. For the last couple of weeks, there's been a black belt teaching boxing in the karate class. The guy actually says that the karate that we've learned is ineffective, and that boxing is much better. It's come to the point that, if this guy teaches one more class, I'm going to find another dojo. (Our normal sensei is still out with a back injury that led to a severe infection).
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:43 AM   #32 (permalink)

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i dont think anyone no matter what martial art you do can call another "ineffective" it shows how little that person really knows.


PLUS DID THAT GUY SEE THE KARATE KID. ENOUGH SAID
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Old 07-20-2007, 10:48 AM   #33 (permalink)

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That sounds bad there is lad at my club like that who sometimes takes the class. Its terrible
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:06 AM   #34 (permalink)

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ah stop complaining you really like him
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Old 07-20-2007, 01:45 PM   #35 (permalink)

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Is it not selfish to take away a potentially exellent martial art and replace it with another simply because the former was ineffective in his case? I'd like to put him on the ground with a few of my power techniques...Hell, I do boxing too (kickboxing actually), and karate may be more effective for me, but that doesn't mean I won't teach kickboxing in the future because I'm better at karate.
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how do you know you could put him on the ground you havent seen or met the person????
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how do you know you could put him on the ground you havent seen or met the person????
I never said I could, I said I'd like to.
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ok then. thats different. i agree you cant base your opinion of a martial art on one persons experience. It is down to the person who practises not the martial art itself.
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I think that was pretty much the key point to this whole thread.
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i totally go for ju jitsu too
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Actually (sorry, this is going back to the previous point about resisting ukes and whether they try to hit you or not), I was chatting to the Tang Soo Do instructor/ sensei (what is Korean for Sensei anyways), who also used to take Jitsu. He said one of the reasons he gave it up was because when you start getting really good (I think he was a 2nd Dan), the throws look so effortless that bystanders don't believe that the uke is trying to hit you. So quite often he got critised at MA events by people. In the end he got fed up with it and packed it in. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but definately something to keep in mind.
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Wow... for a thread that I thought was going to simply be answered "person, not style" this lasted a while...

Anyway, Sa Bu Nim (not sure about that spelling, seen it spelled 100 different ways) is a pretty common term for instructors in Korean arts, but it specifically applies to 4th, 5th and 6th Dan. Kwan Jang Nim is the title for Grand Master which is 7th, 8th and 9th.
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Well, can't let Chapel down here.

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Sorry, in this case, it depends more on if the school concentrates on self defense, tradition, or competition.

As far as the guy teaching boxing, my biggest issue isn't that he's insulting the art. My biggest issue is that the current sensei is allowing a man who insults the art to teach us. I can take insults. I can either logically dispute them, or, if I can't do that, it means that there is a flaw in the art, and, knowing about it, I can adjust for it.
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Actually (sorry, this is going back to the previous point about resisting ukes and whether they try to hit you or not), I was chatting to the Tang Soo Do instructor/ sensei (what is Korean for Sensei anyways), who also used to take Jitsu. He said one of the reasons he gave it up was because when you start getting really good (I think he was a 2nd Dan), the throws look so effortless that bystanders don't believe that the uke is trying to hit you. So quite often he got critised at MA events by people. In the end he got fed up with it and packed it in. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but definately something to keep in mind.
for the guy , I know what he means though
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will i believe that the both arts came from one place "The Kodokan" and the combine from the both martial arts makes u and ultimate grappler .
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